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originally posted by: Echo007
The general public don't care if police get shot these days, it's like hearing about a shooting in Chicago.
Police being targeted will continue to rise, until cities finally train police like they do in the UK. Rookie officers don't carry a gun for 3 years, that makes them learn other skills, when dealing with the public. They must go through 100's of hours of training too.
US trains police to think of everyone as a threat, pull your gun if you feel at all threatened or if the person won't do as you command. Police have the mindset that were below them, just like prison guards do about inmates.
originally posted by: GemmyMcGemJew
a reply to: Boadicea
All statistics you will find relate to cops killed. If I were to use your terminology and we're " shot at" then I think the number would far exceed 365 a year (no statistics provided).
I do find it alarming that it's near impossible to find government statistics on wounded officers. Statistics are only highlighting deaths. I know america has a strange stance on government statistics when it involves shooting (especially unlawful police killing citizens) but you would think they would still provide it.
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So which is it? Do we have trigger happy cops, or do we have cops that don't shoot their gun throughout their entire career?
How do you expect me to hold a conversation with someone who contradicts themselves? Whom can't even see they contradicted themselves? Whom doesn't know basic mathematical concepts?
The overwhelming majority of police shootings are completely and totally justified...
...with no ambiguity or debate aside from those that think hugs solve everything.
The number of shootings that require significant articulation is a small percentage...
Requiring cops to only shoot after being shot at wouldn't have any statistically relevant change other than more cops killed and wounded in the line of duty.
If you really want to parse the available statistics down, I would suggest spending some time on the Bureau of Justice Statistics website. They release a report every few years that goes into a pretty deep level of detail about police/civilian interactions. That's where the much-ignored-on-ATS statistic of "less than one percent of all police/civilian encounters result in the use of deadly force" comes from. To put a point on it, unjustified shootings accounted for something like 0.001% of all interactions I think.
originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: Echo007
The general public don't care if police get shot these days, it's like hearing about a shooting in Chicago
That is precisely the attitude they're going for. Distraction from what they're busy preparing for, and desensitization of the public. When people are complacent and detached, they're easier to control...and most importantly, easier to catch off guard.
The Boston constable who was killed in a shootout with police officers on the evening of Oct. 12 appears to have grossly exaggerated his military service in order to build a career in private security.
Kirk Figueroa, 33, injured two police officers before he was mortally wounded in the firefight. The officers entered the deceased gunman’s home after he open fired on them with what officials described as a “tactical shotgun,” which he was not authorized to carry.