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T-X partnership hits 11th hour snag

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posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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With the T-X RFP set top drop in December, Raytheon and Leonardo have had an 11th hour snag hit their partnership. Neither side has disclosed exactly what the problem is, but it's believed it relates to division of labor. Raytheon is set to do final assembly, with Leonardo supplying the airframes. Honeywell will provide F124 engines for the aircraft.

Under the original partnership, Leonardo was paired with General Dynamics to offer the M346, designated the T-100. General Dynamics withdrew from the competition last year, with Raytheon stepping in to take their place.

m.aviationweek.com...




posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I'm betting on workshare as the article speculates. Raytheon may be trying to leverage its 'US Partner" status to force better terms from Lenardo. Without a US prime, the entry would face significant political hurdles, even if as the article states about 50% of the airframe is US produced



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: FredT

That seems to be the big reason partnerships like this fall apart.



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks for posting some juicy aviation drama. The reader responses and comments at the bottom are pretty thought provoking as well.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:11 AM
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It's a waste of time. Congress will never buy a jet trainer with Russian DNA. It's a Yak. It may have some different innards but I doubt the AF or Congress would want to see our pilots flying the same trainer as the RuAF. Boeing, Northrop, and Lockheed all have better offerings. I just don't see how they possibly think they can compete.. It's a waste of time. It's almost the same as the Hawk really. Useless for F-22/35 training.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

If I recall we were supposed to see boeings design in september. What happened to that. It might not have been boeing. I know we got a glimpse of Northrops.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Crumbles

They had the formal rollout September 16th.

www.boeing.com...



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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They should have gone with Boeing-Saab, This beauty looks like she supercrusing standing still.

This mistake reminds me of the YF-23! A superior air frame, and platform, in every direction.

I know it's a sim but it's still nice.



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posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

The RFP won't even be issued until December, with selection next year.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

The YF-23 was one of kind. That one is a beauty, but not quite on par.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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The players:

Raytheon/Leonardo T-100:


Lockheed/KAI T-50A:


Northrop:


Boeing:



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

So now that Boeing's shown off their Gripen-with-an-F/A-18-bodykit, is Northrop ever going to officially do a presser for their entry?

I'm dying to see what the planform looks like from above/below.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

One of these looks like a great strike platform.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 04:11 AM
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originally posted by: aholic
a reply to: Zaphod58

One of these looks like a great strike platform.


Boeing all the way, its got hard points written all over it, I would imagine it would not be too much to beef up the legs for a carrier variant too and that long nose looks set for advanced radar. I dont really know what I am talking about but if made en masse as a lightweight multi role aircraft, it might be OK for CAS - it could carry a few Hellfire and SDBs and a Centerline gun pod.
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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 08:45 AM
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The dispute involved who was the senior partner, what work would be done where, and general language difficulties. It was resolved late last week sources say. They're looking at possibly splitting the two aircraft (M346 and T-100) in the export market, and allowing Raytheon to build the T-100 in the US while Leonardo would build the M346.

www.defensenews.com...



posted on Oct, 24 2016 @ 12:26 PM
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Raytheon and Leonardo announced they will build the T-100 FACO in Meridian Mississippi.

www.combataircraft.net...




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