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originally posted by: FosterVS
Are you using centimeters in the US now?
One of the problems with the video - the truck is coming FROM the gate direction. The trail on the other side of the border there is a goat trail for about 20 miles. Guaranteed they didn't come from that direction. So how did they get in FRONT of these guys?
In all the years I have been poking around these border points, the only trails I have seen the camo dudes come out of are some of the Bald Mountain gates, which leads right to the GLR guard shack. Any other trails, including this Stewart Well gate, the camo dudes have followed me in.
But hey, just speculation on my part. Believe what you wish.
originally posted by: gariac
I heard Stewart Well Road. I think that is one of the roads that branches off the road to the back gate.
It doesn't look to me that anyone crossed the line. I suppose the camo dudes could lie in their report to Lincoln County.
The video is on YouTube as well, which showed up in my Google email search (whatever they call that service). That probably means Google doesn't crawl LiveLeak.
a reply to: ANNED
At long last, after rattling our sabers all these months, we publish the names of Cammo Dudes who were deputized by the Lincoln County Sheriff's Dept., as obtained from public records. In the course of our investigation, we also turned up the "Pittman Station" mentioned in the security manual and a current business office for Area 51 in Las Vegas.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I am inclined to agree with Foster VS on his assessment (and experience in the area). This looks a lot like a cocked up video the more I look at it. Hey, views are money right (on U-toob anyway).
That said, I have a question for some of the other panty-wastes on this thread....
Is it illegal to drive "close" to a jail, or a prison? That's a secured area too, you know. And just how "close" is "too close"???? Is it 20 centimeters, 20 feet, or..20 miles???? Perhaps we should be happy to live on the other side of the planet from a secure installation...be relocated there even. I'm sure some of you would be happy with that..."safe zone" and all. Me? I'm not okay with it. Not at all. Would I personally drive up to the Groom Lake boundaries? Probably not, BUT ONLY because I have a pretty good idea what goes on there...and it ain't aliens!! Is it a fascinating place? You bet it is!! Everyone wants to know a secret; it's human nature at it's most basic.
If the video in the OP was real (which I now doubt), then Mr. Fatty Camo Dude is plainly on video committing Assault with a Deadly Weapon (a felony) at the very minimum, unlawful detention, unlawful search and probably about 10 other offenses. For this reason alone I agree with FosterVS. Heads would roll if this was real. You just don't yank your pistol out and start barking commands in the middle of nowhere without provocation or reason! AND...as long as this is a (semi) "Free Country"...I stand by this premise!
originally posted by: gariac
a reply to: FosterVS
The dudes have long distance video gear now. They could have spotted the bikes at a distance and positioned themselves beyond the gate prior to the biker's arrival.
I need to locate Stewart Well Rd. If it is one of those roads by the back gate, the dudes have a "perch" there. I had camped on their perch once. I was just beyond a tree, so a little passed where they park. I heard the dudes come driving up, so I popped out from beyond the tree, camera I hand. The dude driver backed up and ran off the road. The other dude had to get out and instruct the driver on how to get back on the road. Not to make enemies, I put the camera away.
When I got up in the morning, the dudes proceeded to park at the end of the road in order to get my plate. Note that dudes can run your plate.
I'd like to think all the photos of the dude's Raptors caused a stink due to expense and their trucks were then replaced with cheap arse Dodges.
originally posted by: Moohide
I dont think its real, it just doesnt seem/feel right. i mean, the title - HELD AT GUNPOINT BY CAMO-DUDES @ AREA 51 SECRET BACK GATE. What? Theres a SECRET BACK GATE to the SECRET government facility, the road looks quite well used.
The mannerisms of the dudes dont seem right, or that uniform, and i thought they had big guns like a sniper rifle/assault rifle and liked to be more covert and be seen in the distance.
Why did the dudes just let them ride past when they were heading towards the signs, why not block the road so they cant pass? The signs dont look right they look to small and not very outstanding, no other fencing or buildings. But there is some rubbish by the side of the road next to the sign on the right. Not much questioning and a very short conversation for guys who were "centimetres" from crossing. The other biker was laughing as well, nerves maybe, but not sure i'd be laughing.
The big guy says about a fine of $750 dollars but on the real signs they say "up to 6 months or up to a year in imprisonment", also $1000 - $5000 dollar fine for photography/trespassing . Has anyone ever actually crossed and been imprisoned and/or fined?
In reality, what would have happened if a real camo-dude caught u centimetres over the line? Cant imagine he'd pull out his tape measure, but would act in a more 'military' kind of manner than these 2 guys.
a reply to: projectvxn
It doesn't matter where the border is. If it is designated a protected area you can expect a swift response by men willing to do violence to keep you out.
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: gariac
This place is vastly different than Edwards.
The Groom Lake facility does not have average airman or soldiers working there. This is typically an SF guarded facility.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Not sure what video some of you watched, but the one I watched showed two guys on motorcycles riding on a public road (open to the public) up to a private property boundary (but not over it). Then some paramilitary (special forces wannabe) goons showed up drew firearms on them for no reason and detained them for no apparent reason other than to act like a couple of douchebag bad-asses! The minute the first jerk-water, fat boy, pulled out his pistol without identifying himself, his agency or his purpose, deadly force was justified as a self defense. Camo dude is lucky he didn't take a bullet right then and there!