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Gorbachev Warns world of imminent Armageddon triggered by Russia-US new Cold war.

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posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: Spacespider

I sure hope so.




posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 12:40 AM
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Hi sorry but I think you mean 3 minutes

thebulletin.org...



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 12:40 AM
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edit on 11-10-2016 by caddlesee1966 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 12:48 AM
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originally posted by: Encryptor
a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Mandela effect? Ok for some reason i remember Gorbachev the guy with the birthmark on his head, being a drunk. I may be wrong here though, it may have been Yeltsin. What was so great about Gorbachev though?


Theres a difference between the Mandela effect and just not knowing what youre talking about.......

Gorbachev was a good man, even if you just look through the history of the time.....



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 01:07 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I have just found these from back in the day lol.







I wish that show came back.

I agree though If he didn't do what he did...I can't imagine the world would be very different.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 01:09 AM
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The biggest problem right now is with Obama's lack of any real desire for peace in the world, instead he just ruins every opportunity with cowardly responses to real world problems. What a joke that he received a peace prize.

And it isn't just Obama either, it is every single politician we have right now. Which ones are speaking about peace and harmony types of objectives? Zero, Zilch, none. The media is also America's enemy by fostering this same lack of care about any objective or goal that might lead us away from wars.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 02:25 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Encryptor
a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Mandela effect? Ok for some reason i remember Gorbachev the guy with the birthmark on his head, being a drunk. I may be wrong here though, it may have been Yeltsin. What was so great about Gorbachev though?


Theres a difference between the Mandela effect and just not knowing what youre talking about.......

Gorbachev was a good man, even if you just look through the history of the time.....


History remembers him as a good man because his policies helped bring the cold war to an end and hastened the collapse of communism. If you were to ask many Russians, however, you will find that they hold him in contempt. Many people lost everything when the Soviet economy collapsed and in the aftermath, they witnessed their country ruined by a corrupt American puppet government (Yeltsin - the Drunk one
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Meanwhile the proud Russian people had to endure the shame of having their noses rubbed in it when NATO and Clinton started bombing the Serbs (Russian allies who they would normally have protected)...

It is little wonder that Russians can again feel proud to have a President who dares to stand up to American bullying. As for Gorby; yes he was a good man who achieved a great deal, but as westerners we forget there are two sides to every story and that Russians have good reasons to despise the man for what they regard as selling them out.

It is a good thing he speaks now because he is more likely to be listened to in the West than he is back home; and the West is the aggressor in this conflict as always....



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 02:34 AM
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edit on Tue, 11 Oct 2016 02:34:53 -0500342America/ChicagoTuesday4 by rigel4 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Well duh....... you obviously didn't read the rest of my posts.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 04:41 AM
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a reply to: Encryptor

To be fair pal, you didn't exactly cover yourself in glory with your opening couple of posts.

Confusing Gorbachev with Yeltsin highlighted certain gaps, let's say, in your knowledge. Before you go wading into a subject it's always worth making sure you have a bit of a grasp of the subject. Chill out though dude, looks like you've just been here a few days there's no need to be so antagonistic. If you are wrong about something and someone calls you out, just hold up your hands, take it and move on.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 04:59 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
The biggest problem right now is with Obama's lack of any real desire for peace in the world, instead he just ruins every opportunity with cowardly responses to real world problems. What a joke that he received a peace prize.

And it isn't just Obama either, it is every single politician we have right now. Which ones are speaking about peace and harmony types of objectives? Zero, Zilch, none. The media is also America's enemy by fostering this same lack of care about any objective or goal that might lead us away from wars.


I think right now we have the Obama administration and Putins admin playing the same game. Both beneifit from having an enemy to blame things on. For example the Obama administration can use thr excuse Russia is trying to thwart the US elections. And thus downplay the releases from wiki leaks. And Putin can use the big bad Obama administration to keep people worried about war and they won't notice there economy is tanking. Both are using the diversion just diffrent reasons. Both need an enemy so what better than convince people that the cold war is on again. The only way this will change is if both sides start talking and find common ground. I must admit I'm starting to worry when I keep hearing things like Hillary and Obama working over time to blame Putin. And Putin is busy playing games with his own people to stay in power. This could easily escalate by accident.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 05:04 AM
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And Putin is busy playing games with his own people to stay in power.


Would you mind explaining what you mean by this? Do you have any evidence to prove your claim?

Putin is undoubtedly eager to hold onto power; but it is equally fair to suggest that the Russian people want him to remain in power.

You wrongly state that Putin is happy for his people to live in fear of US attack in order to distract them from a failing economy. Russian people are acutely aware of their economic woes and fully understand the reasons for this: Western sanctions combined with low oil prices. Russians totally understand who is to blame for the decline in jobs and why they can't get hold of Western goods; why the Ruble has fallen so badly and why they are being cast as the bogeyman by Western news media and pols. They support their president because he speaks more truth than any of our leaders ever will.
edit on 11-10-2016 by casinoed because: For clarity



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: Encryptor
a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Mandela effect? Ok for some reason i remember Gorbachev the guy with the birthmark on his head, being a drunk. I may be wrong here though, it may have been Yeltsin. What was so great about Gorbachev though?
perestroika



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 06:00 AM
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posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: casinoed

Well there was the apartment bombings where the FSB were caught red handed. He needed a. Oogie man to blame changes he made and Asasination of political rivals jailing of opposition parties and the economy. Don't kid your self Russians are hurting I have family there and it's getting bad. So he needs to seem to be a protector instead of the cause of bad economic times. Russia is heading for a big crash and many all ready realize that. But at least for now they haven't blamed Putin well not all but that idea is shall we say being discussed more openly. Expect further clamp downs by Putin in the name of protecting the people. And this will be claimed that it's to protect Russians from the west of course.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 06:11 AM
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Well in regards to the OP about the possibility of a World War 3 with Russia, the only ones pushing that agenda is the United States.

I'm pretty sure it was the U.S. that was first in threatening Russia with "consequences" for interfering in their plans to mold the Syrian conflict in America's interests.

If World War 3 does escalate to full scale nuclear attacks, you have only the United States Government to thank for ending millions of lives. Pray your government isn't that stupid.



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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Well, first let me express my satisfaction for the level of participation in the thread, I think Gorbachev concept and opinions are extremely important to consider since he is a man with in the Russian mentality, the way they have to see the geopolitics.

If he feels we are reaching so dangerously the point of no return toward a Nuclear confrontation we need to hear him, when we are still on time, since he was once the man with his hand on the nuclear button for 6 years, so he is a valuable judge in to determine these kind of events.

Gorbachev has showed along many years a very independent position in Russia, many times he has sided with the opposition and asked for more democratic guaranties.

His warning to us is definitively an alarm released by a friend, not by an enemy, is a friendly warning that we need to work with Putin and not against him otherwise we are all pushing the world to an abyss.

Please check:

www.huffingtonpost.com...

www.cnn.com...

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness



posted on Oct, 11 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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Well, I am afraid that you are quite right, during the last five years all the pressure that has practically sent the world to another cold war came from the western powers, trying to expand their sphere of influence on countries where it was never, never even in times the communism didn't exist at all.

There is a lot of misinformation in the average people in America and western Europe on this topic, it is not an expansion of Russia what has created this so volatile situation , to the contrary, it has been the gradual movement of the borders of the NATO and the EU to Eastern Europe what has triggered the crisis.

We need to understand that to try to locate NATO nuclear missiles in Ukraine, but also in the Baltic Countries or Romania is seen as an incredible aggressive and hostile policy that Russia can't tolerate, they are not going to accept that in no way, and they prefer to take emergency measures, drastic action before to deal with those weapons so close to their borders.

America and EU is doing to Russia right now what Khrushchev tried to do to us during the crisis of nuclear missiles in Cuba of 1962, we can't ask him to accept what it was unacceptable for us, that is so simple to understand.

The US international agenda with respect to middle east is right now a disaster, has destabilized the entire region by supporting in an irresponsible and not very smart way revolutions that were carried out by Islamic radical extremists, that is what is going on in Syria, Libya, and even Egypt, a country that was for three decades our must reliable ally in that part of the world and now does not want to know nothing about us.

Putin has already granted to us the courtesy to warn us that he is not going to accept a Nato arsenal in Ukraine, and the same in any country with borders with Russia or the former USSR, so we must be intelligent, try to refrain an insensate political ambition and be even thankful with him because he normally does not give such notice in advance to anybody.

This not even Putin concept or will, it comes from well before his rule. There were political international agreements when the USSR dissolved, and the principal condition Russia put to recognize independence to the new countries was that they never would take part in any alien military alliance, that deal has been systematically violated by EU and NATO since many years ago.


Please check:
www.independent.co.uk...

If Russia suddenly launches a massive invasion to Ukraine, as well as to the Baltic countries, Romania and possibly Poland there is a huge responsibility on that potentially disastrous situation in all the so wrong decisions taken since 2012 in Washington, Berlin, Paris and London to support coup d'etats in Ukraine to put there a puppet government that Russian can't accept. This in spite of also all the terrible mistakes committed by NATO forces in to divide the international action against ISIS.

Please check:
saboteur365.wordpress.com...

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
edit on 10/11/2016 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: The angel of light

I appreciate your input on this, It would seem you are correct in your analysis of Gorbachev therefore I having looked into this former leader, can agree that yes, he appears to know what he's talking about.



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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IMeversoHO, more likely "inside job" nuke attack ...
Ruskies now being set up to be [naturally] blamed.
Maybe some Russian complicity.




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