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Let's Get Muddy - Second Presidential Debate

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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
Worst debate ever. Best debate ever?


A little of both. Big ending.




posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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It really is sad.
I feel really sad for him. It's been a sick and hurtful joke. I feel like we have all lost. I am so sad about this....literally crying now



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: projectvxn
Doesn't matter who won..

America lost tonight.


America has been losing to the establishment for over 30 years now.


yes and yes... till we reject the lie that you must vote for the 2 party strangle hold we as a country are fubar.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Gryphon66

Sorry man that ship sailed years ago...

Its just now more open...

IRS focusing on certain groups is a good example for the other side of the fence.


Perhaps you can quote President Obama threatening to use the IRS to put someone in jail?

A tyrant is a tyrant ...


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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 123143

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 123143

originally posted by: Annee
No LGBT issues?

Again.


JHC, not everything is about gays.


Where have you been the last few years?

In a cave?


No one really gives a crap.


Speak for yourself.

Not others.


no really, no one gives a crap. Gays are about 2-3% of the population. Trans about 1 in 3000. People are people and we all get the same human rights. Gay people are no more special than straight folks.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
and why are people LAUGHING? EVERYONE has laughed ....

it's pitiable, and embarrassing. omg


I think it is telling that they laughed at Hillary several times, based on Trump's comments. The moderators had to stop them.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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So sad....

this is so dysfunctional and sad. I am doing my best to help, you guys....ATS.....I really do care. I feel so demoralized, disheartened, defeated, and fragile --- more so than I have in many years.

What will happen to us?
What will happen to my kids? My millennial kids? Will I ever have grandchildren? Are we all going to be nuked? I just want to be left alone and live my life. This is very scary.

None of us are "prepared" for this. It's absurd. It is idiocracy in real life.

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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: shooterbrody
“If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation,” Trump said. “Because there has never been so many lies, so much deception, there has never been anything like it.”


That is by far the bigest statement in the debate imo.


You mean, that he would be willing to use the power of the Presidency and the Justice Department to punish a political rival?

Yeah, that's a big moment. What was that word you guys love so much?

Tyrant ...


He absolutely roasted her on that one, glad it stood out for you too.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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I see Nixon and liberal Nixon. God help us.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

When did i say i agreed?

I said it was the bigest statement. In part for the reason you spoke of.

Tea party probs with the irs are not good. A candidate telling an opponent if they win an investigation will follow is huge.

Dont put words in my mouth.


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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Don't worry, it's always darkest before the Don.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Where does the buck stop?

If bad things happen on any bosses watch its their fault for not putting the right people in positions of power, the fact nobody was really punished over it is bad as well.

Please note I have not said I support what he said, just that both sides I am certain have used the fed to strike out at political rivals.

The difference is Trump said he would do so openly.
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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:57 PM
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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:57 PM
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Trump won if for no other reason than he was able to handle what should have been an butt hurting over his 11 year old "lock room talk" as he puts it.

It was over early and he was able to turn the issue around on her somewhat.

Everything else was just a simple say nothing debate.

What else that worked for Trump was that moderators did a good job and asked hard questions of both candidates. Clinton didn't seem to have as good a night handling her bad issues as Trump did.

So again going into this undecideds where ready to hear all about how Trump molested women and they walked away hearing the list of Clinton's problems. And so it was a win for Trump.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: projectvxn
Doesn't matter who won..

America lost tonight.


America has been losing to the establishment for over 30 years now.


yes and yes... till we reject the lie that you must vote for the 2 party strangle hold we as a country are fubar.


I sort of agree. But the establishment, both parties, HATE Trump. So even though he is severly flawed, I am hoeful that maybe he would act as a "third" party by shaking up the establishment.

For god sakes, the entire establishment politicians and media are pulling out all of the guns to stop him. I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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You guys, really.

Why is this the exact same story as Mad Max Thunderdome? Why does this feel like the Hunger Games "Capitol"?

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO US?
I need some support...please.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
I still can't get over this, lol:



Boom! *mic drops*




posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
I see Nixon and liberal Nixon. God help us.





Yeah you wish. We'll never have it that good again.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

oh yea I agree out of the two I think there is a small chance Trump will actually try to change things for the better...

Hillary.. not a bloody thing will change, and I am not happy with the direction we are heading at this time.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit



Hahahahaha
That is funny



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