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originally posted by: mirageman
I might be wrong but my impression of Bluebook was that Ed Ruppelt tried his best with a meagre budget to investigate the UFO phenomenon properly. Once the summer of 1952 and the Washington DC Flap occurred then it became less investigative and more a PR exercise in explaining away sightings.Five years later we see that in the cursory report Bluebook filed to explain the Levelland case.
Not surprised you've never been Venusburnt though Karl. Too much cloud cover in Blighty.
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Jdennis10
Hey buddy. Mostly around Los Angeles. Did tours in my 20s for various people. Played every place on the sunset strip. Now i do occasional session work. Main bass is a custom MTD 635 hand build by michael tobias himself. Grew up playing cello suites, rock, metal. Berklee got me doing jazz until i was sick of it. Now mostly R&B and funk. Rock also. Some latin.
I think MM is to the point he doesnt think it is human tech....
originally posted by: 111DPKING111
a reply to: karl 12
Good to see you hanging around Karl, where would you put this case if you were ranking them, top 5?
I think MM is to the point he doesnt think it is human tech if you read back on page 7, what do you think is the most likely cause here?
I will expand on that by saying whatever it was at Levelland that caused the engines and headlights to die does not seem to have been possible in 1957 with the level of technology known at the time. Nor, if at was top secret tech, does it ever seem to have been developed and used by the military. Imagine having the power to stop mobilized armies in their tracks with such technology. But the US Air Force didn't seem that bothered about what happened. Why not?
What was needed at the time was swift reaction by Blue Book and a serious, thorough investigation. Captain Gregory, then head of Blue Book, did call me by phone, but at that time, as the person directly responsible for the tracking of the new Russian satellite, I was on a virtual around-the-clock duty and was unable to give it any attention whatever.
I am not proud today that I hastily concurred in Captain Gregory’s evaluation as “ball lightning” on the basis of information that an electrical storm had been in progress in the Levelland area at the time. That was shown not to be the case. Observers reported overcast and mist but no lightning. Besides, had I given it any thought whatever, I would soon have recognized the absence of any evidence that ball lightning can stop cars and put out headlights.
I feel Project Bluebook, no matter what the intentions might have been originally, devolved into a "debunking factory", which was understaffed, underfunded and disinterested in the phenomenon.....
to my mind there's so bloody many of them its difficult to put in a top ten (or top five)
The ultimate point of his analysis is that the EM field interruptions caused by UFOs is something like a remote switch that turns off the ability of a vehicle or a battery to actually conduct electricity.
No military weapon we currently possess is capable of suppressing current flow of electronic devices at a distance the way UFOs apparently can. We can fry the electronics with high powered microwaves or atomic generated electromagnetic pulses but but we cannot suppress the ability to use the electronics and then allow them to operate again.
While the term Electromagnetics [EM] is thrown around left and right because UFOs interfere with electrical and electronic systems what UFOs do is not "Electromagnetic" as the term is commonly used.
I know what you mean, but there hasnt been much debunking here in this thread, Randles blog, or skeptical sources on the interweb
Can we say it as 'alien' or at least 'not designed by humans'?
It has to remain a possibility. But there is not enough evidence to say it was anything more than 'unexplained'.
It would be interesting to see what kind of traction this case would get if it occurred today..........