This is not a Female vs. Male Election People, It is Right vs. Wrong

First, there is no way in hell that Hillary Clinton would be the nominee of the Democrats if she was not a woman - The Democratic Party has transcended all sense of decency, of right and wrong by nominating a candidate whose scandal riddled past, and the scandal ridden past of her husband, former President Bill Clinton who was only the second President in US history to be impeached.


So why have the Demoncrats done this? - They will stop at nothing in their mad quest for power - power in a country that recognizes their hypocrisy
- an hypocrisy that supposedly represents the common Man, the middle class, but which in fact represents a rich class of powerful Socialists,
the New World Order, the most corrupt group racketeers that ever existed - No way in Hell do they represent you - unless you are
one of them.


And Hillary Clinnton wants to know about Trump's tax returns?

Let's look at Hillary's tax returns:

"Hillary Clinton's 2015 tax return shows $10.6 million in income"
- Yes she did put a few million back - maybe only made 7 million

Poor, poor Hillary, champion of the middle class - What middle class?

And how did Hillary make this money?

Speeches and the Clinton Foundation - A supposedly charitable organization that has given little back in charity.


But this doesn't matter people - If you are a Demoncrat you want to win - You throw right and wrong under the bus - you know that people are not paying attention, and you spend millions, many millions of dollars baraging the mass media airwaves demonizing Donald Trump for his occasional lapse in judgement, shooting from the hip, his style, you know as a Demoncrat that you can buy the election, use feminism to your advantage and put Hillary,
The Clinton Foundation, and the New World Order, into irreversible power conrtrol
- you can put an end to the United States Constitution - You can, in fact, end the United States of America.


So what's it going to be people? Are we going to preserve the Republic of the United States of America?
- Or are we going to sell out, as the Clintons have done to the New World Order - To a World run by mobsters who answer to no one ?



And finally one quote from each candidate:

"I AM YOUR VOICE

To every parent who dreams for their child, and every child who dreams for their future,

I say these words to you:

I’m With You, and I will FIGHT for you, and I will WIN for YOU."

- Donald J. Trump



And from Hillary Clinton we only need a short quote:

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

- Hillary Clinton

a reply to: AlienView

I keep wondering how we got here where we have to choose between these two idiots. Basically it always comes down to Trump is bad, but Hillary is worse.

a reply to: AlienView


I beg to differ with part of your thread title. This election is more about Wrong vs Wrong. It's a matter of which "wrong" are you more willing to accept. Hillary's wrongs. Or Trumps wrongs.

I started a thread on this subject yesterday and received some interesting and informative responses... along with the usual chaff posts.

Ref: www.abovetopsecret.com...

There’s an old saying.

“There’s some people that the devil doesn’t even want”

Donald Trump is one of those


The NWO doesn’t even want him

As for Hillary, the devil certainly will take her and the NWO has her in their pocket

It's wrong vs. wrong.....none of'em are fit to run a nation. The sooner you guys figure that one out the better.

originally posted by: Verse
It's wrong vs. wrong.....none of'em are fit to run a nation. The sooner you guys figure that one out the better.

As I pointed out 2 posts above yours, more Americans are now coming to that conclusion. You'll not get much argument against your "wrong vs wrong" assertion, Verse.

Its wrong VS wrong-er.

I like Trump because when I was a kid I liked to put firecrackers in fire ant mounds. THATS what it would be like with Trump "in charge". Totally not a game player in that particular game. He might be a pervert but a pervert with an ENORMOUS ego and drive can do a lot of damage to the fast track to hell we are on. WHen I look back, throughout my life it was never take the good with the bad concerning every president Id seen. Its more like : make what you can out of crap.. with ANY politician. See what you can squeeze or manipulate him or her to do. Firecrackers... they cause a lot of ants to run around and totally forget what the hell they were doing one millisecond before that sucker blew. Might be just enough time to get something done productive in this country.

a reply to: AlienView

The lesser of two weevels? I'll take the bigger one

You're stance in this race is pretty obvious. I think it's sad we're fighting over a giant turd and a real life douche bag...We have become so apathetic it's almost sad.

Maybe more like wrong vs wronger. What a # show.

Trump can plunge our country into a deep depression and start wars with our present allies.

Hillary can plunge our country into a deep depression and start wars with our enemies while raping and pillaging for his own sick perversions.

I'll take the lesser of two evils.

How many of you are old enough to remember the era of the 60s/70s ? Back then they talked about 'the Establishment"
- words like New World Order weren't in vogue yet - It was more a feeling people had of a corrupt establishment that
ran things - Forums like this and much of the evidence of the New World Order wasn't there for the common man to see.

Today we know a lot more - A lot more evidence has surfaced - When the Bilderbergers meet, conspiracy theorists
let you know - even though they still don't know who they are - and exactly what they are up to- Suffice it to say its a
power game with a hidden agenda - And they make many people who play along with them, such as the Clintons
rich and immune to prosecution from immoral and criminal activities.

And Donald Trump ? Apparently not one of them and apparently he is a very brave man - beat their insiders in
the Republican Party to win the nomination and is now running against their annotated candidate, Hillary.

Of course, when and if, he wins - You can just see two goons from a clandestine intelligence agency coming to see him
and telling him who is really in charge.

So, yes it may be a futile game against 'them' - But at least let us not make it easy for 'them' by electing Hillary

If you vote for either of them you are giving a nod and thumbs up to the corrupt two party system.

I know one of the two turds will win so I don't care which it because either way it will be the worst president in history. I refuse to be a part of that so my vote is going to the next election for a chance to change the sh!t show the keep producing.


If the 5% is reached then I will have been part of a positive change in the system unlike all the sobs playing red pill blue pill.

originally posted by: AlienView
First, there is no way in hell that Hillary Clinton would be the nominee of the Democrats if she was not a woman

"If she were a man, it would already be over!"

a reply to: AlienView

I dunno. Her voting record- remember, she was not elected to office until 2001- her Senator voting record shows she agreed with Bernie Sanders 93% of the time. She was rated the 11th most liberal Senator. During that time she became the Democratic Party's top fundraiser. Not for her own campaign, but for the Democratic Party. That means that a lot of lesser known Democrats relied on her for her fundraising power. She was able to combine her experience as First Lady, the star power of that title, with her passion for advocating about the issues into a powerful tool for the Democrats. Thanks to her hard work, Democrats started to build a stronger party. She used her NY connections to extend that power across the US. Here in Wisconsin more than one new elected representative owes their career to her.

Many people misunderstand her duties as Secretary of State. That is an advisory role. Secretary of State is a middle man and a figure head. The Secretary of State is not in the military chain of command. I find it interesting that so many people blame her for ISIS when the Secretary of State can not negotiate with a non-recognized non-sovereign country and it can not order military attacks.
The only true picture we have of how Clinton will behave in office is her voting record as a Senator. That is the smart way to evaluate a politician. Forget the tabloid news and the partisan attacks. Let the record speak for itself.

originally posted by: Metallicus
I keep wondering how we got here where we have to choose between these two idiots. Basically it always comes down to Trump is bad, but Hillary is worse.

Yes, but what does that mean?
Clinton is the same last 10yrs of policies..
Trump is the opposite of everything Bush and Obama are

"This is not a Female vs. Male Election People, It is Right vs. Wrong"

It's not even that. It's wrong vs wrong.

Both Clinton and Trump are detestable individuals who are not fit for presidency. The USA is screwed either way, and it's a shame that the people have to suffer.

Let the facts speak - A brief history of the queen of scandals:

Must Watch!! Hillary Clinton tried to ban this video

Stupid people are still voting for her because they think she's a progressive honest candidate, even after watching this video.

Now, think Trump is hiding something by not showing his tax returns?
Maybe, but let the Clintons show you how they do it.........

Clinton Foundation Charity Fraud Exposed by Whistleblower

The Clinton Foundation has been linked to all sorts of illegal activity, from bribes to money laundering, which is now under FBI investigation.

The Clinton Foundation is NOT a charity, it is a money laundering mechanism for a criminal enterprise.

America's heroes are standing up to bring down this crime syndicate that is destroying our beautiful nation... These are the most despicable people to ever walk the planet.... they certainly cannot take over the White House again!!!
- Nancy M

"It is long overdue that we have a woman as a legitimate contender for the White House. But Hillary Clinton is the definition of the establishment so many are determined to reject."
-Donald Trump


"Hillary Clinton embodies the corruption of Washington".
--Donald Trump


“Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
– Hillary Clinton

a reply to: AlienView

If there is one thing about this election that is certain, it is that there is no right and wrong involved. If there were, it would be a much simpler choice, a legitimate, if monochromatic election.

As it is however, this is an election of wrong versus wrong, and that is the only legitimate way to look at it, unless you want to buy into one or another set of lies, obfuscations, propagandist twaddle and the like, which, just for the record, would be a fantastically stupid thing to do, no matter your personal beliefs.

The reality is that you are picking between two liars, two megalomaniacs, two con-artists. There is no way to gussy either one up as being better than the other, because even the best things they could say have no meaning, as neither one is trust worthy. Trump has lied to investors, lost people their pension money, deliberately short changed people, used sweatshop labour and screwed people to get to where he is today. He is scum. Hillary Clinton has lied to the people constantly, set things in motion which cause harm to people all over the world, and gotten fat and rich doing it. She is scum.

Neither one are electable, because neither is moral. Choosing either one makes the voter complicit in whatever evils wind up being done by the candidate who wins, so unless you want to be complicit in a war crime, unless you want to support the hegemony, unless you want to be part of the problem, rather than its solution, you will vote neither of these halfwits into office.