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Experts said Arctic sea ice would melt entirely by September 2016 - they were wrong

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posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:04 AM
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Dire predictions that the Arctic would be devoid of sea ice by September this year have proven to be unfounded after latest satellite images showed there is far more now than in 2012.

Scientists such as Prof Peter Wadhams, of Cambridge University, and Prof Wieslaw Maslowski, of the Naval Postgraduate School in Moderey, California, have regularly forecast the loss of ice by 2016, which has been widely reported by the BBC and other media outlets.

Prof Wadhams, a leading expert on Arctic sea ice loss, has recently published a book entitled A Farewell To Ice in which he repeats the assertion that the polar region would free of ice in the middle of this decade.

As late as this summer, he was still predicting an ice-free September.

Yet, when figures were released for the yearly minimum on September 10, they showed that there was still 1.6 million square miles of sea ice (4.14 square kilometres), which was 21 per cent more than the lowest point in 2012.


www.telegraph.co.uk...

Also:

It is the latest example of experts making alarming predictions which do not come to pass. Earlier this week environmentalists were accused of misleading the public about the "Great Pacific Garbage Patch" after aerial shots proved there was no "island of rubbish" in the middle of the ocean. Likewise, warnings that the hole in the ozone layer would never close were debunked in June.


This failure is why we must never, ever, trust anyone with AGW agenda. The earth has climate change in cycles. I am more inclined to believe we are headed towards another ice age. But first, we must make it through the increased moisture phase- like what is written in the geologic column.




posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:11 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican

Careful now, this is blasphemy!!

"The Global Warming... excuse me Climate Change community is the only thing standing in the way of the sheer and utter destruction of planet earth!

There is far too many of the peasants, all using our finite resources, we must tax them and convince them that there is a population crisis! This way we can build an international NWO to protect them from themselves!

We also must suppress technologies that would prove that we do not have a resource problem, we shall simply use the ministry of truth to go through and make the corrections necessary in order for people to forget about this predication that emphasizes how absolutely full of s*** we are!

Subtly using the Global Warming scare as a method of preaching our Eugenicist doctrine while cleverly never addressing the root issues of the environmental destruction... chemical companies, concentrated animal feeding operations, fracking/oil/coal, all of these things we hold a monopoly on and trust us we will continue profiting off poisoning our peasants. While they slowly die, we will profit more off them with our medical system!

Lets just see you try and grow hemp!

Mmuaaahhhahahahahhaha" -- David Rockefeller

He was one of the first to comment on this article, he quickly deleted it so I reproduced it, it is slightly paraphrased.

What a prick!


edit on America/ChicagoSaturdayAmerica/Chicago10America/Chicago1031amSaturday4 by elementalgrove because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:12 AM
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Hah
failed so called scientist must be replaced by real ones
But they needed some money in the green energy sector and was payed handsomely



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:17 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican
Well they must have got their facts wrong,
Throw that book out and we will re write some new facts.
2017 Anybody?




posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:21 AM
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Would be interesting to see if polar ice on Mars was changing in same pattern.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: bigyin
Would be interesting to see if polar ice on Mars was changing in same pattern.


Wow, cool. I didn't know there were Martian AGW nutcases to debunk too!



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican


This failure is why we must never, ever, trust anyone with AGW agenda. The earth has climate change in cycles. I am more inclined to believe we are headed towards another ice age. But first, we must make it through the increased moisture phase- like what is written in the geologic column.

And all that is distraction away from the real issue, global environmental pollution on a never before seen scale.

The ones promoting arguments about warming and cooling are the corporations that want our attention focused elsewhere instead of the industrial toxins being pumped into the air, water and land.

Global warming, chemtrails, melting ice, sea levels, etc.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:28 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican

You're wrong.

Have you looked at Google Earth lately ?

There is no Arctic polar sea ice, it's all gone... melted !

Nothing but ocean up there now !

Google Earth sez so.




posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:36 AM
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originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: TrueAmerican

You're wrong.

Have you looked at Google Earth lately ?

There is no Arctic polar sea ice, it's all gone... melted !

Nothing but ocean up there now !

Google Earth sez so.



Simon sez? The polar ice retreats every year. Google earth pics are but one snapshot of a yearly ice cycle.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: TrueAmerican

You're wrong.

Have you looked at Google Earth lately ?

There is no Arctic polar sea ice, it's all gone... melted !

Nothing but ocean up there now !

Google Earth sez so.



Simon sez? The polar ice retreats every year. Google earth pics are but one snapshot of a yearly ice cycle.



Ah but the polar ice hasn't just retreated... it's completely melted, dagnabit !

It's gone man, all gone.

Google Earth can't possibly be wrong !




posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: CranialSponge

"Plain gone dagnabit"? I tell you, i saw all that ice hiding out in a hotel in the Bahamas under Hurricane Matthew. It would fit too.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:49 AM
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a reply to: intrptr




I tell you, i saw all that ice hiding out in a hotel in the Bahamas under Hurricane Matthew.


AHA !

I knew it... I knew there must have been some Google Earth false flag conspiracy satanic subliminal message thing going on.

The ice is just simply hiding under hurricane Matthew.

The lying bastages...

Pfft.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:01 AM
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And just to confirm this story further, this from the NSIDC:


As of October 1, Arctic sea ice extent stood at 5.19 million square kilometers (2.00 million square miles), which is an increase of 1.05 million square kilometers (405,000 square kilometers) from the seasonal minimum of 4.14 million square kilometers (1.60 million square miles) recorded on September 10. Compared to some other years, the growth rate since the seasonal minimum has been quite rapid. The ice growth has been predominantly in the central Arctic Ocean and the East Siberian Sea sector. There has been little ice growth in the Laptev and Kara Seas, and ice has actually retreated in the Barents Sea.


nsidc.org...

A glacier could come down and knock on an AGW nutcase's door, and they still wouldn't believe it.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Okay okay.

All joshing aside, the Google Earth showing no Arctic sea ice thing is due to an algorithmic mapping problem.

But you know dang well, people will look at it and think "Aha ! There's no sea ice showing !" and take that at face value.

Ergo... the scientists were right.




posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:10 AM
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originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: intrptr




I tell you, i saw all that ice hiding out in a hotel in the Bahamas under Hurricane Matthew.


AHA !

I knew it... I knew there must have been some Google Earth false flag conspiracy satanic subliminal message thing going on.

The ice is just simply hiding under hurricane Matthew.

The lying bastages...


Its "farging batsages" and the devil has nothing to do with it. The missing narrative is about corporations spewing into the environment, not about 'ice'.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:15 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican

I think you're premature to be celebrating this failed warning. The NOAA released a time-lapse of satellite imagery of decreasing Arctic sea ice. It runs from the 1980s to 2013 and the pace of the decrease is clearly getting faster near the end of the footage.

Where it says 'old' is a reference to ice that's older than 4 years. Whereas sea ice used to be much older due to the stable climate conditions, it's no longer able to be replenished due to longer summers. The warmer northern seas are staying warm for longer and it's hampering the way new ice can accrue on the old ice. Now the 'old' ice is exposed throughout the year, it's prone to melting and not being replaced.



Mid-century is a plausible time period for there to be no significant Arctic sea ice. They can only use climate models based on available data and, let's face it, we're learning as we go along. Saying it'd be 2016 would always be too specific when we can't guarantee the state of global weather next spring.

Personally, I've no doubt that we're heading into global upheaval due to the changing climate. The consequences are promising to be life-changing for the generation being born in the next few years. Sure, we'll adapt over centuries and we'll learn to minimise our impact on our planet. It's not about controlling the world's weather and climate, it's about existing within natural climate changes and avoiding creating tipping points that could lead to extinctions and global conflicts.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:17 AM
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#ing junkies stole all the ice.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:47 AM
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Whereas sea ice used to be much older due to the stable climate conditions
Stable climate conditions you say ....when was that ?and when did the climate become unstable ? Where I live the ice is all gone but 12000 years ago it was 3 miles thick . So you can pick a point between 12000 years ago to present and show me where the climate was stable and wasn't changing .



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican

Well here we go again twisting projections in a manner to allow you to sit there in climate change denial land.

Every single explorer, scientist etc that works or visits the artic regularily states the Artic is melting fast and is a disaster we are all ignoring

Every single climate change denier sits on their rear end in front of computer in a warm room stating that the above group of people haven't a clue.

YEAH RIGHT!!!!!



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: yorkshirelad

And every single expert that said Arctic sea ice would melt entirely by September 2016 was wrong. When 2050 gets here and there is still plenty of Arctic sea ice, maybe by then the new generation will have all these crackpots jailed, with new laws against AGW freaks. Now that would be COOL. Icy, even.



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