BL and the Wingmakers?

if cow_file is right and icewolf at id is putting out clues about black labrinth then i am almost positive that it must have something to do with the wingmakers. the labrynth has 23 holes the wingmakers cavern has 23 rooms and the poems also have several other references to the wingmakers. here is a copy of ice wolf's poems and had not been altered in any way
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Day 1

The dark night chills in the old town square,
the barren town leaves none to spare,
the two who meet on the darkest nights,
with a lantern and the moons silvery light,
Discussion on the future goes on till late,
Until a decision is reached on the state,
The powers decide to play a game,
Of mystery and of powerful shame,
When the wheels turn and all is bare,
The world pales in a consistent stare,
That such a delicate thing could be seen by few,
As a fleeting word amongst the dew.

Day 2

As the two arrange to meet again,
The world looks and passes.
The thought that two so innocent,
Would plan their downfall surpasses,
Even the most secure of man,
Does follow the crowd enthralled,
Madness rules the land,
For they do hear that the sirens called,
Their lives have now been signed,
For they traded them long ago,
For words covered with nicities,
And all along they would know,
How even now they cannot see,
What trully lies in wait . . .

Day 3

As time goes on no one knows,
How evil just grows and grows,
The dark maze draws attention,
To mysterious movements of apprehension,
As the men delve deeply into talk,
Of the horror which awaits all who stalk,
The creature of power so great,
The answer to the question the hunt's at stake,
As the talk continues amongst the two,
Leaves fall from the trees and subdue,
They lie in piles of two's and three's,
Powerful steps have to be taken,
To be safe from the peril awakened,
For the two alone cannot fullfil,
The quest undertaken with their skills,
In secret times all is profound.

Day 4

The two men arrived again,
They had succeeded in deterring them,
Like binary stars hidden in plain sight,
From the path which would lead them right,
They lifted their glasses a toast to drink,
On the wealth of innocence which was sure to shrink,
The hunters, hunted, irony was sweet,
Yet time would show how they'd meet,
The plans unfolded as time grew old,
Soon all would have to be told.
The race was on.

Day 5

The time has come again, night has come.
The relic hunters have begun
A quest on which time will rest
The darkness shrouds and covers best
The puppets strings are pulled this way
And so they have no say
A game is on which shall prove
The most dangerous puppet will be hardest to move
The wheels have turned and now shall start
The begining, the end, the dark.

here is a link to the poems on ID and cow_file's original post

original post

icewolf's original poem's

Interesting similarities......I did a search for Wingmakers and got several results. The one I began reading had some parallels to the Black labyrinth...the mention of the object's "oscillation" for one, and the illustration shown here.

The link above shows a 'cross' shape similar to the one that appears when the image of the Black labyrinth is reduced...this was mentioned much earlier, by someone, but I could not find their post.

Lonemaverick has made only two posts, both in this game, with the wingmaker 'hint'....is this the long awaited assist??

The wingmaker - ancient arrow site is quite long, maybe some one with a bit of time could check it out.....a bit of it does (here) read like a fictional account, but so did much of the last game...that would not automatically mean it is not part of the Black Labyrinth.

Originally posted by frayed1[url=http://www.wingmakers.com/aap-ch1.html].

whois query on the above

Domain Name: WINGMAKERS.COM

Administrative Contact :
Hempel, Mark
(MH9820)
[email protected]
6400 BARRIE RD APT 1607
EDINA, MN 55435-2338
US
Phone: (612) 947-9225
Fax: 999 999 9999

Technical Contact :
Hostmaster,
(HO1320-ORG)
[email protected]
9NETAVE
Secaucus, NJ 07094
US
Phone: 000-000-0000
Fax: 000-000-0000

Doesn't seem to be relevant.

sorry frayed_1 i am not ur long-awaited clue person. i just found this forum site. I then proceeded to stumble upon the wingmakers by accident. i just thought that the caves were discovered ~800 ad which would be a time where alot of people spoke latin, how there were 23 rooms in the wingmakers caves and 23 holes in the labryinth, and the fact that the rooms are arranged in a double helix as in the human genome also fascinated me. i think that if we arrange the rings in a helix or a double helix or something like that we will get a constelation in the holes that are not lined up and that that constellation will be signifigant to us in (humanity) in some way. I am currently doing a lot of research into the wingmakers and i hope that i will be able to dig something up. if u are interested in helping me, feel free yo u2u me so that we can arrange something.

Pic is from the wingmakers chamber 18.


There does seem to be a lot of coincidences.

Your image doesnt work switchblade, i am curious to see what you have found.

---Pineapple

wingmakers.com appears to have a fully-functioning online order system; I got all the way up to entering my credit card details to order one of their CDs and it all looked quite legit. Seems like a bit of a stretch for part of the Black Labyrinth contest, although I agree, there are quite a number of striking similarities and references.

Does anyone feel like actually completing a transaction to find out for sure?

Nezuji

Is it just me, or does anyone else not see how you guys are relating the wingmakers to the game? Am I just stupid? I did research, but I'm not getting exactly how you think this is the game. Somehow It seems we're all pulling at strings trying to solve this... I would really appreciate it if someone would tell me.

_df

Oh, and PS- You have noticed that HUNT_ADMIN hasn't been on since 15-10-2004 at 11:54 AM, right....?

[edit on 30-1-2005 by DarkFlame]

I am just now getting around to looking at BL. I am just doing some reading first and seeing what others have found out.

First has it been solved yet?

Second:

Originally posted by lonemaverick
. . . the labrynth has 23 holes . . .

If I am interpreting "holes" correctly, then something has changed as there are now 32.

Is it changing?

Rather than saying 23 'holes' it would be 23 'steps' to .....( according to the latin phrase written on the BL image page)

There should be 33 'holes' or 'black dots' ( doorways in the labyrinth ??) That is the same number it started with.

22 of the light colored rings
22 of the dark 'rings' , if you count the inner most dark area where the 'eye' is located.....(and 23 if you count the outside dark area - the back ground area.)

Here is a link to the other threads with Black Labyrinth info.

Yes 33 "door ways" - my mistake on first count.

thanks for the info and the link.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'