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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: TheRedneck
She's not protesting out of hatred, it's out of, to her, justifiable fear, as you rightly point out.
This is where, should she be willing, someone needs to actually sit down and explain what is happening. In that way, perhaps, ignorance is given short shrift. She shouldn't be shouted down, her fears should be addressed.
That and practicing what I preach are my forms of "not contributing to the problem". And in doing so, I end up interacting with a bunch of different people from different backgrounds, which also helps alleviate the problem. Ok, I'd like to think that it helps alleviate the problem, but that's actually determined when something bad happens & people have to choose between kneejerk fury or their newfound "understanding".
But doesn't that also fit under "not contributing to the problem"? For example, I think that ignorance and fear of the unknown are the cause of most forms of racism and bigotry. So instead of being a part of that problem, I prefer to see things for myself, learn the truth about things, and then teach what I've learned through activism and music.
Ok, I'd like to think that it helps alleviate the problem, but that's actually determined when something bad happens & people have to choose between kneejerk fury or their newfound "understanding".
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Miracula2
The Muslim Kingdom of Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States' independence. Thomas Jefferson had a Qur'an, learned Quranic Arabic from it (which helped him in diplomacy), and that same Qur'an was used for the swearing in of the Muslim member of the House of Representatives, Keith Ellison.
And President John Adams negotiated the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli, which says this in Article 11 (HERE):
ARTICLE 11. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Oh, the treaty was originally written and negotiated in Arabic, with "Musselmen" being Muslim and "Mehomitan" being Mohammedan. Does that count as info our schools should teach about Islam?
I'm mentioning all of this because it's absurd to think that America doesn't already know about Islam. We've been here from the beginning and even had working relationships with the "Founding Fathers" (as I listed above). Not only that, but many of our entertainers and sports figures are Muslims, from Muhammad Ali, Hakeem Olajuwon, & Bernard Hopkins to Dave Chappelle and Ice Cube.
And I mentioned this before, but this quote is simply wrong:
then allowing a religion that requires its adherents to kill those who do not accept it is lack of respect for public safety by Congress and the President
The actual Qur'an tells us the exact opposite, with one of its 114 Surahs dedicated to commanding us to tell disbelievers "unto you your beliefs and unto me mine". I'm actually getting tired of having to post this since anyone could look it up for themselves. Here's Qur'an Surah 109 Al-Kafirron ("the Disbelievers") in its entirety (Pickthall translation):
1. Say: O disbelievers!
2. I worship not that which ye worship;
3. Nor worship ye that which I worship.
4. And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
That's the entire Surah and any Muslim that disobeys this is defying what we believe are the literal words of God. In other words, they're doing it in spite of Islam, not because of it.
originally posted by: surnamename57
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: enlightenedservant
So why are people still condemning each other over religions that state to do the opposite?
In spite of what is stated, religions have always been used as tags. That's the unholiness of any religion.