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Why Bin Laden hates America, in his own words.

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posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 10:08 AM
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Statement from 1998

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.

Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

Full Statement


Reasons for hatred of us= Support Israel and occupy Arab lands.

Here is Time Magazine Interview from 1998



TIME: How do you react to the December attack on Iraq by U.S. and British forces?
bin Laden: There is no doubt that the treacherous attack has confirmed that Britain and America are acting on behalf of Israel and the Jews, paving the way for the Jews to divide the Muslim world once again, enslave it and loot the rest of its wealth. A great part of the force that carried out the attack came from certain Gulf countries that have lost their sovereignty. Now infidels walk everywhere on the land where Muhammad was born and where the Koran was revealed to him. The situation is serious. The rulers have become powerless. Muslims should carry out their obligations, since the rulers of the region have accepted the invasion of their countries. These countries belong to Islam and not to the rulers.

TIME: What can the U.S. expect from you now?
bin Laden: Any thief or criminal or robber who enters another country in order to steal should expect to be exposed to murder at any time. For the American forces to expect anything from me, personally, reflects a very narrow perception. Muslims are angry. The Americans should expect reactions from the Muslim world that are proportionate to the injustice they inflict.


Source



Bush lied, Bin Laden never said he hated freedom:



2004

"O American people, I address these words to you regarding the best way of avoiding another Manhattan, and regarding the war, its causes and its consequences. But before this, I say to you: Security is one of the important pillars of human life, and free men do not take their security lightly, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. Let him explain why we did not attack Sweden, for example. Clearly, those who hate freedom – unlike the 19, may Allah have mercy on them – have no self-esteem. We have been fighting you because we are free men who do not remain silent in the face of injustice. We want to restore our [Islamic] nation's freedom. Just as you violate our security, we violate yours. Whoever toys with the security of others, deluding himself that he will remain secure, is nothing but a foolish thief. One of the most important things rational people do when calamities occur is to look for their causes so as to avoid them.

Ful Transcript


Bush lies, people die! (I saw that message on a protest sign on tv during that parade lol)




posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by ProphetOfYahweh
Bush lied, Bin Laden never said he hated freedom:


OF COURSE UBL hates freedom. He doesn't have to say it.
His actions speak it loud and clear. UBL wants to rule the world
He wants the planet to be radical muslim (wahabbi) with him on top.
Have you seen how the wahabbis behave and believe? They aren't
exactly freedom loving. Ask the women .. oops you can't because
their religion forbids them contact with you, forbids them education,
etc. etc. etc. Heck, some wahabbi religious leaders want to stop
all education of the men, except for reading the Quran. No math.
No science. No social studies. Nothing except reading their Quran.

yeah ... a real bunch of freedom lovers ....


UBL is an murdering ego-maniac with visions of world dominance.
Pure and simple. Someday he'll be in hell ... hopefully sooner
rather than later.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 10:21 AM
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bin Laden's Iraqi lieutenant




"We have declared a bitter war against democracy and all those who seek to enact it," said the speaker in the 35-minute message.Democracy is also based on the right to choose your religion," he said, and that is "against the rule of God."


Pretty much sums it up. Source www.cnn.com...



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 10:26 AM
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a man who opposes all people that follow any different set of religious beliefs is clearly against freedom. freedom of religion, freedom of expression.

Bush didn't lie about that but it was a nice try.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 11:57 AM
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Bin Laden hates America because he's jealous.

Honestly, free people are so much cooler than slaves.

Before 9/11: Afghanistan: women walk around in shower curtains

After 9/11: Afghanistan: women no longer wear shower curtains



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 12:28 PM
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If you go back in the history of the modern world and the middle east you will see that the middle east has been submitted and dominated by other nations.

Once the middle East discovered oil the greed for other nations to get that oil brought more problems to the middle east.

Why is so wrong for the people of a sovereign country to want invaders and non nationals or natives of their lands to stay away?

Some of you will never understand the struggle of the people in the middle east not only they have to battler invaders but also government supported by these invaders that are oppressing them.

Bin-laden was not always against the US, and for the other poppet of "zarqawi" I don't even believe he really exist. to me he is more of a name than a body.

Bin-laden was not a regular man he had money and he grew up in money.

Take the time to think about it you may be surprised about all these fall guys that we call our "enemies number one"

Even native Americans when they fought invasion they became the enemy also in their own lands.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 12:51 PM
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Marg, Does your husband share the same view by chance?
I will agree the Native Americans were wronged by the Great White Father of those times up at present! These are people who need to be heard.

Bin is just a coward and hides under his own skirt................lol


[edit on 23-1-2005 by ancientsailor]



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by ancientsailor
Marg, Does your husband share the same view by chance?
I will agree the Native Americans were wronged by the Great White Father of those times up at present! These are people who need to be heard.

[edit on 23-1-2005 by ancientsailor]


My husband view are his business. Perhaps ignorance make many blind to see the realities of our "war on terror" and by the way Edsinger used to bring my husbands, per say views all the time, I have not seen Ed around are you sure you have not change names?

The more we invade and attack the middle east the more their people are going to hate the US and his agendas.

How do you know he is hidding he may be in the caiman Island for what you or me knows.

[edit on 23-1-2005 by marg6043]



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 03:36 PM
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After 9/11: Afghanistan: women no longer wear shower curtains


You're ignorant, they aren't any better off now under American's puppet government. Read this news article.



[edit on 23-1-2005 by ProphetOfYahweh]



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 04:00 PM
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Flyers Fan,

You're a very ignorant person, I've come to realize this throughout my time on this site; your tautalogies are getting quite annoying. Can you please substantiat your spurious claims that Whabbis[who ever the hell they are] read nothing but the Qu'ran? Regardless, what exactly do you expect from a third world country [not that you named one]? Not only should America bring deMOCKracy, they should also bring forth thier highly 'celebrated' education system to the Middle East and degenerate this Qu'ranic teachings you claim to be predominate.

As for your postulation that UBL 'hates' freedom: well, are we well aware that he's fighting for 'freedom', relatively speaking? He's not exactly out to 'take over the world', per se, more or less abolish American clout in the Middle East -- which has subsequently been driven by capitalistic endevours.

Deep



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 04:53 PM
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It's amazing how many people jump on the party line "Bin Laden hates our freedom". You guys should move to Russia and reinstitute the Communist party because you all act like mindless drones. If France started invading the U.S. to get at your resources and started forcing everyone to speak French you would fight to the death to stop it. Would you not?

So why is Osama' fight any different. The U.S. and Israel have been meddling in the M.E. for over 40 years now and only to suit their own needs. Although I do not condone what happened on 9/11 it's no different than all the collateral damage that has occured from off-target U.S. munitions. It's a war and both sides are playing for keeps and using whatever is available to them. I'm sure if O.B.L. had stealth bombers he would use them, but he doesn't so he uses the next best thing and also a symbol of American Freedom. The "Freedom to Travel" i.e. airplanes



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 04:54 PM
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The more we invade and attack the middle east the more their people are going to hate the US and his agendas.

How do you know he is hidding he may be in the caiman Island for what you or me knows.

[edit on 23-1-2005 by marg6043]


You mean the rulers who control the other lands have fear that they will lose their throne and riches who have ruled by an iron fist!
As for Bin is still within the area may be, one day he will be found dead or alive. Most wanted!
As for being over there Marg, real life pictures of the eyes are far better than reading out of the book. These people needs us, they are learning something new about being a person. If we make the region shake a little, so be it. People have always been against war, you never had to live in Iraq where the chemicals are still in the sands. These people deserve a life, not live existing and no hope. The world gives advise and bashing of America, I served with honor with my own truth I stand for. I have always stand for what I believe in, even when standing alone against people who seam to lose faith. What has to come in the future neither you or I can stop it from happening, deal with it as it comes. If you can not deal with it, sorry I can not give a crash course on it. Telling others we have no right to be over there, they will hate us because...... I do not buy this, to turn your head of those who need our help, they are our brothers and sisters in the eyes of God himself. You are worried about things that may happen in the future, your chose. I chose to live for today. Turn your head then, many people in America have done this when DAV ask people for donation for our veterans, and other organizations. We have many problems here this is true, I chose this place it is better than any other I have seen in this world I have walked as a human being.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 04:59 PM
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I think you all have it wrong:

Bin Laden hates the fact that we side with Israel.

And I agree with him. Regarding injustice, Israel is just as bad as Palestine, yet we side with this country based on America's hidden Zionist agenda.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 05:21 PM
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Why Bin Laden hates America, in his own words.

From 1998?
You, and others, are saying anythng new and different? Pleeeeease.
Old News.
Redundant.
Meanless.
Immaterial.
Been discussed within ATS multiples of time, but yet again, yours and others anti-American, "lets bash America and Bush" drivel has to resurrect something to anything to further your hatred agendas.
Can't find something else creative to do, read a book rather to continue with spreading your hate rhetoric.

Plain and simple.



seekerof



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by ancientsailor

You mean the rulers who control the other lands have fear that they will lose their throne and riches who have ruled by an iron fist!


Yes the same rulers that the present and past administrations has help raised to power and has supported them also.



As for Bin is still within the area may be, one day he will be found dead or alive. Most wanted!



Yes, "most wanted" he served his purpose and now he is safe and taken care off.




As for being over there Marg, real life pictures of the eyes are far better than reading out of the book. These people needs us, they are learning something new about being a person.



And so my husband he spend in the middle east 18 months. And he said they are your friends as long as you are "invited in theirs lands" but when is time for you to leave they want you out.



If we make the region shake a little, so be it. People have always been against war,


How come we are fighting and wagging wars?



you never had to live in Iraq where the chemicals are still in the sands.


Where?



These people deserve a life, not live existing and no hope. The world gives advise and bashing of America, I served with honor with my own truth I stand for.



Yes they deserve a life, but they don't need more death and destruction from outsiders.

The world bashes Bush insane ideologies. And god send wars.



I have always stand for what I believe in, even when standing alone against people who seam to lose faith.



Is nothing wrong with that, I do too, is not about losing faith but using faith to push personal believes.



What has to come in the future neither you or I can stop it from happening, deal with it as it comes. If you can not deal with it, sorry I can not give a crash course on it. Telling others we have no right to be over there, they will hate us because...... I do not buy this, to turn your head of those who need our help, they are our brothers and sisters in the eyes of God himself.


Yes we can change it or stop it, thats why we are trying, and yes we have borders and they have borders also, we are across the sea so what in the heck our troops are doing over there?

Nobody is turning heads we are just aware of the so call "war on tyranny" can be call tyranny itself. God does not wag wars men and countries do, so god has nothing to do with US in the middle east but bush does he thinks he is doing the will of god in his insane mind.



You are worried about things that may happen in the future, your chose. I chose to live for today. Turn your head then, many people in America have done this when DAV ask people for donation for our veterans, and other organizations. We have many problems here this is true, I chose this place it is better than any other I have seen in this world I have walked as a human being.


Heck yeah I worried about the future, it belongs to our children and the children that has not been born yet.

No thinking about the future is just been irresponsible and self centered, I will never turn my head to the future and this corrupted government we have.

Heck yes we have lost of problems in our country and no money to fix it because the phantom "war on terror" and now "war on tyranny"

You have not seen nothing wait when the mad man in the white house get the OK from "beyond the starts" we may not have a world after all when he is finish.


[edit on 23-1-2005 by marg6043]



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 05:31 PM
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This thread has been covered many times here on ATs and in many topics,

So i see no reason to keep this open,


Thread closed,

Feel free to u2u me if you feel the need


Asala



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