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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Stevemagegod
What are you crying about? Pretty much the entire consensus is that Pence won that debate because of all of Kaine's interruptions.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Stevemagegod
What are you crying about? Pretty much the entire consensus is that Pence won that debate because of all of Kaine's interruptions.
After the debate was over, the line on Twitter was that Pence had done a great deal to help the Pence 2020 campaign—that he had been working on his own behalf. But political loyalty is more complicated than that. Pence is the one who has never really been embraced by his running mate. As the debate began Tuesday night, you could not even find a biography of Pence on Trump’s Web site. But if Pence is dispensable to the candidate he is essential to the candidacy. The Trump campaign needs the enthusiasm of Republican Party regulars and the funds of its donors, and to both of these groups Pence’s presence on the ticket functions as a promise that a Trump Administration will be conservative. To see Pence backing away from some of Trump’s darker and weirder declarations, and prosecuting the case against Clinton for failing to strike a deal to keep American forces in Iraq, must have been heartening for many Republicans, because the Indiana governor was making the Party’s case as they had always imagined it would be made. In Pence, they had a loyalist of their own.
The Vice-Presidential debate started with Kaine and Pence arguing against each other, but it ended in a more diffuse dynamic, in which Kaine was an effective surrogate for Clinton and Pence was an effective surrogate for conservatism. One good way to score the debate is to say that everybody won except for Donald Trump himself. What you make of that probably depends on how you think about political loyalty.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Stevemagegod
They need all the help they can get because their entire platform is insincere. Many journalists have thrown ethics to the wind in order to stop Trump in some near-religious crusade...
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Deny Arrogance
Ohhh. Is "Kreepy Kaine" the new conservative slur/mantra of the week?
Though thanks for the grammar correction. Can't just agree with someone you've traditionally disagreed with. Gotta insert SOME sort of argument into the mix, right?