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Hillary Clinton is a Racist

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posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66




I understand that's your opinion; I believe there are decades of clear evidence regarding her statements and actions to the contrary.


Yet she thinks women and minorities need a government programs to help them out, for instance the idea that a higher minimum wage, instead of expanding opportunities, will bring women out of poverty.


How childish! What an insipid summary of Clinton's positions!

Why don't you quote what you're referring to rather than paraphrasing?

You'll get less straw under your fingernails from the scarecrow you're constructing here.




posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66




I understand that's your opinion; I believe there are decades of clear evidence regarding her statements and actions to the contrary.


Yet she thinks women and minorities need a government programs to help them out, for instance the idea that a higher minimum wage, instead of expanding opportunities, will bring women out of poverty.


How childish! What an insipid summary of Clinton's positions!

Why don't you quote what you're referring to rather than paraphrasing?

You'll get less straw under your fingernails from the scarecrow you're constructing here.


Let's get back on topic here shall we?

More racist Hillary, less sidetrack derailment attempts.




posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

KKK member 60 years prior, disavowed for those 60 years.

A meme is all you've got?

Sad. Demonstrate racist actions and/or statements from Robert Byrd and we can move on.

If you're going to argue from the equivalent of cartoons, you're simply too boring for me to bother with.



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: TinfoilTP

KKK member 60 years prior, disavowed for those 60 years.

A meme is all you've got?

Sad. Demonstrate racist actions and/or statements from Robert Byrd and we can move on.

If you're going to argue from the equivalent of cartoons, you're simply too boring for me to bother with.


Ok, here's some Youtube, enjoy!




posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




How childish! What an insipid summary of Clinton's positions!

Why don't you quote what you're referring to rather than paraphrasing?

You'll get less straw under your fingernails from the scarecrow you're constructing here.


"Increase the minimum wage. Women represent nearly two-thirds of all minimum-wage workers in America. A higher minimum wage will help close the gender pay gap, lift millions of women out of poverty, and have a ripple effect across our economy. Hillary will also work to end the so-called “tipped minimum wage.”"

hillaryclinton.com



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

I see you don't have the ability to respond with your own words.

Yes, Clinton and others admired the man Robert Byrd became. Let's stipulate that and move on.

Again, do you have any evidence for your charge of racism against him (or Clinton?)



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: TinfoilTP

I see you don't have the ability to respond with your own words.

Yes, Clinton and others admired the man Robert Byrd became. Let's stipulate that and move on.

Again, do you have any evidence for your charge of racism against him (or Clinton?)



Here he is comfortably saying "I've seen white 'n-word's".... Hillary's mentor sure loved that word right up into ripe old age.




posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Well, the only part you got technically right was the phrase "lift millions of women out of poverty" ... so you get a check-mark for that. 7 words out of 50 or so ... so about 15% accuracy (at best).

Now, having failed utterly there, why not demonstrate that raising the minimum wage have none of those stated effects and then show us how a universal change such as minimum wage is somehow demeaning to women and minorities.

You can pretend, of course, that the wingnut supposition that we don't live in a mixed economy in which the government and government activity inside the economy are a vital component; you can pretend that both women and minorities have not been discriminated against for decades which REQUIRED the government to step in and take steps to equalize the playing field, and you can even pretend like paying a decent living wage is somehow equivalent to a "handout" ... but all you're doing is parroting right-wing rhetoric. Garden variety.

Actually take steps to prove any of that to us, and you might have something.
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posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Goodness, he said the n-word. That was a poor choice of terminology in context wasn't it?

Was that right after he made the conservative argument that we're "post-racial" in this country?

Was that right after he made the conservative argument that by talking about racism we're creating it?

Was that right after he stated that as his mother said that if we hate ANYONE we don't get into heaven?

Sorry, it takes more to create a racist than use of one word. Sorry if you were triggered by it.

Now, let's hear him applying that term to Black Americans ... either maliciously or not ... got any of that?

Let's hear about all the legislation he tried to pass to keep Black Americans disenfranchised ... list it out.

Those items would support your argument of racism.

EDIT: I see your video carefully chose to ignore this part of what Mr. Byrd said that day ...



Seconds before being asked about race relations, Byrd mentioned his membership in the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s. He was reacting to the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who recently admitted fathering a child with an employee of his nonprofit organization. "He made a bad mistake," Byrd said. "We all make mistakes. I made a mistake when I was a young man. It's always been an albatross around my neck, joining the Ku Klux Klan."


And as to the use of the N-word ... he apologized immediately.



“I apologize for the characterization I used on this program. The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today’s society. As for my language, I had no intention of casting aspersions on anyone of another race,” according to the statement read on air.


ABC
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posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Raising the minimum wage is an incentive to to keep working in minimum wage jobs. What is demeaning to women and minorities, and thanks once again for misrepresenting me, is that they need the government to fix their problems for them because they belong to a certain group.



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

Raising the minimum wage is an incentive to to keep working in minimum wage jobs.

What is demeaning to women and minorities, and thanks once again for misrepresenting me, is that they need the government to fix their problems for them because they belong to a certain group.


Says who? You? LOL. Well, I disagree.

Raising the minimum wage provides the ability to perhaps save some money, work fewer hours that would allow one to get more training or education, and create a more sustainable lifestyle which would in turn help with confidence, outlook and so forth and actually encourage folks to "want to do better" rather than always "barely getting by."

It's actually folks making the argument that YOU are making here that are actually demeaning women and minorities. Your underlying assumption is that folks just don't want to do any better for themselves, so if they make more, they'll be even less likely to strive for better. What BS.
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edit on 5-10-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Goodness, he said the n-word. That was a poor choice of terminology in context wasn't it?

Was that right after he made the conservative argument that we're "post-racial" in this country?

Was that right after he made the conservative argument that by talking about racism we're creating it?

Was that right after he stated that as his mother said that if we hate ANYONE we don't get into heaven?

Sorry, it takes more to create a racist than use of one word. Sorry if you were triggered by it.

Now, let's hear him applying that term to Black Americans ... either maliciously or not ... got any of that?

Let's hear about all the legislation he tried to pass to keep Black Americans disenfranchised ... list it out.

Those items would support your argument of racism.

EDIT: I see your video carefully chose to ignore this part of what Mr. Byrd said that day ...



Seconds before being asked about race relations, Byrd mentioned his membership in the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s. He was reacting to the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who recently admitted fathering a child with an employee of his nonprofit organization. "He made a bad mistake," Byrd said. "We all make mistakes. I made a mistake when I was a young man. It's always been an albatross around my neck, joining the Ku Klux Klan."


And as to the use of the N-word ... he apologized immediately.



“I apologize for the characterization I used on this program. The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today’s society. As for my language, I had no intention of casting aspersions on anyone of another race,” according to the statement read on air.


ABC


Wow, you are defending a Klu Klux Klan Wizard, see where supporting Hillary will lead you to?

How about Hillary's willingness to experiment with 25 million "poor children"?
She advocates boarding school, which is a fancy term for.....SEGREGATION.....hahaha. She fancies it up with socialism but when the bodies are in the buildings, they will be segregated. Wonder where she gets segregation for children as being an alright solution? Could it be her ties to racist KKK mentor Byrd's ingrained ideology?


Hillary wants to experiment with the lives of poor children?



Then, almost as an aside, Clinton cites the “need” to “experiment” on “poor” kids: She wants to experiment with “boarding schools for poor children.” Segregate poor children in boarding schools, “if we can do it right”?..


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posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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Says who? You? LOL.


Yes I just said that. Your memory might be failing on you, sir.



Raising the minimum wage provides the ability to perhaps save some money, get more training or education, and create a more sustainable lifestyle which would in turn help with confidence, outlook and so forth and actually encourage folks to "want to do better."

It's actually folks making the argument that YOU are making here that are actually demeaning women and minorities. Your underlying assumption is that folks just don't want to do any better for themselves, so if they make more, they'll be even less likely to strive for better. What BS.


Again, that is not my argument. Your sophistry is now world-renowned, in my book.



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

You fail again on facts: Byrd wasn't a KKK Wizard. (And notably, had not been a KKK member for 60 + years at the time he made those statements that YOU brought into the conversation which had to be clarified and given context.)

You're against parents having the right to educate their children as they see fit?

Wow, you're quite the authoritarian, eh?

Still nothing on Clinton's alleged racism. Your material here addresses socio-economic class, not race.



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Sophistry, eh? Do you have a timer set for you to toss that word into conversation? It pops up like clockwork.

One would think you'd stop trying to engage in conversation with a sophist, eh?

Or is your preferred method "birds of a feather"?

Physician, heal thyself.

(Since you do nothing to address the argument I made, you get garden-variety dreck back in kind. Salut.)



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Oh, and just for sauce on the goose ... the NAACP doesn't quite hold your unique view of Mr. Byrd:




The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92. "Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.

"Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy.

"Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."


Source: Snopes article you took the rest of your BS from



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




Sophistry, eh? Do you have a timer set for you to toss that word into conversation? It pops up like clockwork.

One would think you'd stop trying to engage in conversation with a sophist, eh?

Or is your preferred method "birds of a feather"?

Physician, heal thyself.

(Since you do nothing to address the argument I made, you get garden-variety dreck back in kind. Salut.)


I do. I set my sophistry clock to your posts. Strangely enough, I only ever use the word around you. I wonder why. Bible verses aren't going to change that.

Hilary Clinton holds lower standards to racial groups than she would other racial groups, and her's and her husband's policies have resulted in those groups being worse off than before.



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

No, even the erstwhile wisdom of Bronze Age shepherds seems lost on you. Perhaps you only use the word around me because I make you realize the zero content of your typical posts, when you're not contradicting yourself, and therefore you have to project. I have no idea of your psychology and no desire to. 80% of your arguments are semantic, 10% are regurgitated wingnuttery.

The other 10% are what continues to inspire me to bother with you.

You're reading Hillary Clinton's mind now? You know how she regards certain people and groups?

Stunning. You fail to own the implicit racism and sexism of your own previous post, and now, you want to divert again to Clinton.

Post something new that will make me care about responding; post this garden-variety nonsense and listen to the echoes.



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Again, do you have any evidence for your charge of racism against him (or Clinton?)

Referring to black criminals as "super predators" and "need to be brought to heel" is not racist enough for you?
Hillary and the left assuming that black communities are in need of assistance is assumptions based on the racism that blacks are somehow incapable of self betterment.

Back in the 60's black households were more family oriented and financially stable than many white households thanks to high paying manufacturing jobs making quality goods. They were on par to become the largest middle class group in the country. The Clinton's helped facilitate this distruction by sending those jobs over seas with NAFTA in the 90's then convincing women of all races to be dependent on the welfare system more than the father of their child. Thus helping create the liberal plantation. The conspiracy theorist inside me thinks all this was intentional to create an ever dependent group of voters for the left... But that's a different thread all together

Why else would every 4 years these communities hear how the liberals will give them more assistance and the conservatives want to take it away. Yet nothing ever changes for these communities.
Oh wait I forgot there was this....

The first black president has done ZERO to help these individuals. In fact it seems places like Detroit and Chicago are now worse off under liberal leadership. The difference this year is we actually have a candidate willing to tell the hard truths. That these people have been lied to and manipulated into thinking liberals actually want them to better themselves.

Many people like myself don't see this as a race issue more rather a parenting issue the left seems intent on making it a race issue.
We can go either way.
The argument is still invalid.
Liberalism has done more damage to race relations and black communities in this country than conservatism could achieve ever!



posted on Oct, 5 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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There is Hillary's love for racist Margaret Sanger. She even defended her admiration before Congress.


“It was a great privilege when I was told that I would receive this award. I admire Margaret Sanger enormously. Her courage, her tenacity, her vision … When I think about what she did all those years ago in Brooklyn, taking on archetypes, taking on attitudes and accusations flowing from all directions, I’m really in awe of her. There are a lot of lessons we can learn from her life, from the causes she launched and fought for and scarified for so greatly.”

Hillary Clinton later touched on her comments again while testifying before a congressional panel. U.S. Rep. Christopher Smith (R-N.J.) said “the poor, disenfranchised, weak, disabled, a person of color (and) an unborn child are among the so-called undesirables that Sanger would exterminate from the human race.” Clinton responded:

“I admire Thomas Jefferson, his words and his leadership — and I deplore his un-repentant slave holding. I admire Margaret Sanger being a pioneer and trying to empower women to have some control over their bodies — and I deplore the statements you have referenced. That is the way we often are when we look at flawed human beings. There are things we admire, and things that we deplore.”


She equivocates, guess it is alright to like racists in her mind because they do other things too. Why does she go around calling people racist then? Does this mean in her mind it is alright for her to be racist if she does other things too? This is sworn testimony on record before Congress, it is unbelievable the gall she has.

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