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Maybe Trump Did Cheat

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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: PlasticWizard




The Smith-mundt act man.

You don't seem to understand what the act actually is.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: violet

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: violet

Is trump not also? after all he has to sign it doesn't he?.

Yes he signs, but could say he was "mistaken " or he told accountant stuff the accountant wrote down wrong. I don't know but there's ways to pin it on the accountants

PS I've had some tax returns done I never signed. When my ex was having his accountant do mine. I only ever signed the first year where I authorized him to access my account as the tax accountant. Glad I didn't sign anything because had I ever signed joint returns with him I'd have been liable for all his wrongdoings. I have no idea what they claimed on me. I only know I got ripped off on any rebates and after the divorce I discovered I was liable for his capital gains tax from several years back even though I did not jointly own the property he sold. Never knew it existed. They were changing my mailing address so I never got the notices!


You not signing your own tax returns sounds extremely strange.

Either way, in the mind of the IRS, you are responsible for your own returns. Being "mistaken" does not excuse someone legally.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

You miss the point. Only 60% of the people who already plan on voting for trump care if he releases his tax returns. Of those over half say it won't effect their vote anyway.

The only people who overly care about it are democrats and they are overwhelmingly voting for Hilary no matter what.

So again, it's not as big a deal as you think.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Greggers
Yes was strange. Perhaps my signature was forged? It was forged on bank loans. So many schemes going on!
I'm in Canada, so dealing with Canada Revenue Agency. Got my money back I had to pay them for the capital gIns tax though.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

34% of Republicans think he's lying about his reason for not releasing his tax returns.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: violet
a reply to: Greggers
Yes was strange. Perhaps my signature was forged? It was forged on bank loans. So many schemes going on!
I'm in Canada, so dealing with Canada Revenue Agency. Got my money back I had to pay them for the capital gIns tax though.


Oh, I didn't realize you're in Canada. I don't know anything about Canadian taxes, so I digress. Maybe that's perfectly normal up there.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Phage

OK I get that it gives the government authority to use propaganda on other countries but like the post says it can spill over and expose the US citizens.

who's going to tell us the American public "oh that story wasn't meant you guys, just them, wink, wink." I highly doubt they would tell us either way unless they got caught and in that case it would be used as a cover your ass policy.

To stay on topic, taxes.. Dude should probably release them(tradition and all) but he's really not legally bound to so there's that. I myself owe/run a small business and now that I know about it, I have some debt I need to factor into my tax return. It would really help my business out. I pay thousands of dollars in other taxes a year and right when I think I'm about to expand, wham! Tax season..

in my opinion, if you receive or take any deduction be it Earned income child, charity donation deductions it's the same thing as the type of thing that Trump did. Except in a lot of those cases people actually receive thousands of dollars back from the government. Alot of times more than they pay in income taxes. If Trump is taking money away from the military, citizens by not paying taxes, then what does that make everyone else who files taxes, take deductions and actually receive a refund? It makes them extremely hypocritical to me.

PS I haven't received an refund in the 7 years I've been in business. I pay thousands every year.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:36 PM
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PS I haven't received an refund in the 7 years I've been in business. I pay thousands every year.

Good. That means you aren't giving the government an interest free loan.

On the other hand you may want to raise your estimated tax payments a bit to avoid underpayment penalties.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: raymundoko
Well, there was a poll that showed 62% of Republicans thought he should release his taxes but that was a while back.

Among all likely voters surveyed, 74 percent said the businessman should release his tax returns, while 21 percent said they do not think he should.
www.politico.com...


Do you have something more recent? I wonder if opinions may have changed.

 

Got one from September.
Now it's 75% who say he should release them.
And 32% believe him about his reason for not doing so (the "audit").
source


Oh please! Why is it that everyone keeps posting these ridiculous 'Polls'?

Your final poll quoted was from questioning 960 people. Are you kidding me?

The first from CNN was from 1500 people. Once again are you kidding me?

Considering there are over 146 MILLION registered voters in the US, these numbers mean absolutely nothing.

Off hand I just 'polled' 10 registered voters and guess what? Among all likely voters surveyed 100% indicated they don't give a flying * about Trump's taxes.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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Oh please! Why is it that everyone keeps posting these ridiculous 'Polls'?

I didn't bring polls up. A claim was made about polls and I provided more information.

But it seems that you don't understand how statistics and samples work.

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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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Willing to bet that....

The primary reason folks have for voting for Hillary, is that she isn't Trump.

Meanwhile....

The primary reason folks have for voting for Trump, is he's not Hillary.....



Taxes, scandals, bad microphones, collapsing health, etc. is all just superfluous nonsense.
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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: Phage
I understand enough to know that 1500 out of 146000000 is too tiny of a sample to be used for anything other than driving a narrative.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: OrganizedChaos

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: raymundoko
Well, there was a poll that showed 62% of Republicans thought he should release his taxes but that was a while back.

Among all likely voters surveyed, 74 percent said the businessman should release his tax returns, while 21 percent said they do not think he should.
www.politico.com...


Do you have something more recent? I wonder if opinions may have changed.

 

Got one from September.
Now it's 75% who say he should release them.
And 32% believe him about his reason for not doing so (the "audit").
source


Oh please! Why is it that everyone keeps posting these ridiculous 'Polls'?

Your final poll quoted was from questioning 960 people. Are you kidding me?

The first from CNN was from 1500 people. Once again are you kidding me?

Considering there are over 146 MILLION registered voters in the US, these numbers mean absolutely nothing.

Off hand I just 'polled' 10 registered voters and guess what? Among all likely voters surveyed 100% indicated they don't give a flying * about Trump's taxes.



Do some research on statistics, sample size, and confidence level.
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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash

The jokes that they can divide like interests along overblown exaggerated prejudices.

Republicans and Muslims are incredibly similar, typically very religious, traditional morals, conservative economics, etc - yet strongly divided by ( dam terrorists vs dam crusaders).

The Russians and the Democrats have typically aligned because of the fact Socialism and Communism have long been more closely identified with the left. They both generally don't put too much stock into religious traditionalism, etc.

Yet everyone's suddenly siding with their ideological enemy? It's unbelievable.


Trump is siding with Putin because Trump is is an emotional child who is fascinated by Putin's machismo image and dictatorial dominance---Trump wants to be dictator, not president of a democratic republic.

Putin is 'siding' with Trump because Putin believes that President Trump will rupture the alliances between US and its allies, and that would be good for Russia. KGB-man Putin is triggering Trump and playing him.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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It doesn’t seem to add up.


Sure doesn't.




Come on Donald. Let's see your tax returns.


Let's see yours.

Then let's see everyone elses.



Yet, according to financial reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, that same year Trump received $583,333 in compensation from the then-named Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, the company Trump had taken public in the middle of that year.


Oh wait apparently they already have them.

So the issue is what ?

Other than digging up something that apparently hasn't been a problem for Trump.

Hasn't been a problem for the IRS. and wasn't a problem during the Clinton presidency.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 04:25 PM
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Let's see yours.
Sure. Next time I run for President. You got it. You bet.




Oh wait apparently they already have them.
No. The SEC proxy filing is not Trump's tax return.



Hasn't been a problem for the IRS.
You seem to think the IRS is omniscient.

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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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Ya know Phage.

I remember the 90s.

I remember watching CLinton on Arsenio Hall.

I remember Clinton getting 'serviced' cheating on his wife, and left the economy in ruin. Though someone else got the blame for it.

While the .com bubble burst.

That was devastating to real estate, like we saw in the 2008 financial 'crisis'.


Maybe Trump pulled a rabbit out of his 'hat'.

Trumps tax returns are nothing, but a deflection from when a CLINTON was running this country.

And it wasn't ALL rainbows and unicorns.
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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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And to think people.

Had Trump put hismoney in dot com's like everyone else was doing instead of real estate.

Trump would have really lost his snip.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Phage

I remember Clinton getting 'serviced' cheating on his wife, and left the economy in ruin. Though someone else got the blame for it.

While the .com bubble burst.

That was devastating to real estate, like we saw in the 2008 financial 'crisis'.



You have some serious, serious memory issues.


The economy under Pres. Clinton was terrific. That's an economic, mathematical fact, not a political one.

The .com bubble bursting was NOT anything...even remotely..similar to the 2008 near economic collapse.

And both the .com bubble collapsing and the 2008 Great Recession were under Pres. GWB's watch.


That post was the strangest molestation of history I have seen in a while.




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