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originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: FamCore
Obama has pushed the world to the brink of nuclear war.
For what? is the question of course.
originally posted by: all2human
Funny You bring up Georgia and Ukraine, both Aspiring NATO members at the time of conflict, and It's no coincidence.
originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: SoulOfCeres
I have sort of courted a theory that TPTB know that global warming is out of control (or, if you dont subscribe to climate change, maybe they think the "useless eaters" are consuming all the worlds resources too much), and the only way to stop it, is to reduce the population drastically. So they have a limited nuclear war, kill off a large segment of us, and sit in their posh underground bunkers for a couple of years until the fallout gets low enough for them to re-emerge and have the planet and all its resources all to themselves. Hopefully they aren't this crazy, this planet will NEVER be the same after such a terrible poisoning of the biosphere.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: SoulOfCeres
Sounds like a smart idea... doing drills, that is.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ufoorbhunter
The big problem with that is that re-read what you just said and understand that you are bargaining with the lives of those who live in the Ukraine as if they shouldn't have any say in that. Russia wants them, so Russia ought to have them, Hope you don't live in the Ukraine and so sorry if your relatives were some of those purposefully starved to death under the Soviets ... hope Russia doesn't do that to you again.
But you know, Russia wants the Ukraine, so we'll just cavalierly bargain an entire nation of people over to them ...
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Pluginn
Feel free to provide the comprehensive list of conflicts you are referring to and the sources you pulled them from please.
The governments of the world know that a nuclear war is not survivable.
originally posted by: SrWingCommander
That being said Thatcher and Bush essentially assured the Russian's after the wall fell with "we won't expand NATO east, and certainly not to your borders". And yet that's what we have done. Accepting Poland into NATO made some sense, and Russia tacitly allowed it. NATO messing in the Balkins they turned a blind eye too, they didn't want to mess with it, let the West.
BUT, when Latvia and Estonia became NATO members they sat up and took real notice. Same when we started meddling in Ukraine. Imagine Texas broke off from the US, then the Russians came in and started messing around in Texas. Maybe putting in joint training exercise with the Texas Army. That would concern people in the US mightly. I can't blame Putin and the Red's, err...Russians for being pissed.