originally posted by: VP740
a reply to: namelesss
And we don't need a 'well rounded understanding', we need a theory that accounts for all Perspectives!
I tend to think from a programming perspective. Godel's theorem and Turing's incompleteness theorem indicate to me that no one theory can account for
all perspectives; or at least, to do so would require absolutely infinite knowledge.
A theory can be true for all Perspectives, without being aware of most.
For instance, "The complete Universe (Reality/Truth/God/'Self!'/Tao/Brahman... or any feature herein...) can be completely defined/described as the
synchronous sum-total of all Perspectives!" - Book of Fudd
Although true, there can be no Perspectives offered to refute.
Or; "Any statement/Perspective can be argued!"
One need not know them, to even offer anything as an argument validates the premise.
Besides, all is Known.
Knowledge = experience/perception
As a mortal I count such knowledge beyond myself. Though I still feel a temptation to dig into what knowledge I can, just as I get the
temptation to dig into a bowl of ice-cream. Furthermore, I think what I learn may prove useful if I can pick up on any principles I can apply.
The new, critically updated, all inclusive, Universal definition of 'Knowledge';
"'Knowledge' is 'that which is perceived', Here! Now!!"
That which is perceived by the unique individual Perspective is 'knowledge'.
All we can 'know' is what we perceive, Now! and Now! and Now!!!
'Ignorance' is that which is NOT perceived, at any particular moment, by any particular unique Perspective! Here! Now!
Every moment we are unique Perspective/Knowledge.
There is only One Universal Consciousness peeking from all Perspectives!
"Consciousness is the ground of all being!" - Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics
And We are a necessary feature/Perspective of the One Reality.
I take it your approach to evolution vs creation would be different from mine. Do you have a theory? How do you go about developing it? Do
others share your theory? Is your approach Zen based?
The reason that, ultimately, evolution will fail as a 'Universal theory' is the same reason that 'creation' fails.
Both deal with 'beginnings' and temporal 'progression'.
That we are straddling some 'wave' of time, the Now being the crest beneath our feet, and the 'past' and 'future' awaiting our arrival. But it would
all be Now!
Every moment of Universal existence is Now!
Like a movie, motion, and the 'time' that defines 'motion' is an illusion!
Just like the 'moving' characters in the flick.
With no 'time', with no 'motion' (other than as an illusion), where every moment of Universal existence exists Here! Now!
How can 'evolution' even exist, other than as a theory explaining an illusion.
And 'creation' is even more impossible, for many reasons, but if there can be no 'motion'/'time', then no One can 'do' anything, like build a Universe
from nothing. It violates the most basic thought processes.
"The Laws of Nature are not rules controlling the metamorphosis of what is, into what will be. They are descriptions of patterns that exist, all at
once... " - Genius; the Life and Science of Richard Feynman
All 'eternity' at once; Here! Now!!
There is only one moment (Planck moment = 10^-43/sec; "almost" one billion trillion trillion trillionths of a second!!!) of the entirety of
All existence, ever, is one, literally, 'timeless' moment!
"Reality is a synchrony of moments!" - Book of Fudd
All the still 'cells' from the movie are on the table in a heap! All moments.
All frames being perceived at the same 'timeless' moment, from all unique Perspectives!
A Planck moment has insufficient 'duration' to contain 'time'.
A moment is literally 'timeless'.
People who like the time arrows imagine a string of moments, extending from then to some future then.
But if a moment = 0 time, no matter how many you string together, the sum total would remain '0', zero!
Add all the moments of Universal existence = 0!
So how does 'evolution' fit in with what is essentially a Holistic Reality?
Yes, evolution is a great theory that describes a fairly common illusion, but Reality is Holistic, all Here! Now!
All is Known, Here! Now!
The only 'trick' is access. *__-
edit on 7-10-2016 by namelesss because: because