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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
What I see is a large group of Americans who dont support him because they see through the BS, and see him for exactly who and what he is....
Which is?
Let me guess... not presidential? temperamentally unfit? the worlds most dangerous man?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
You're a perfect counter-example of my comment, MBTM ... a well-known, cogent established conservative voice here at ATS ... and yet, you've seen through Trump's charade since the beginning. One by one, I've seen other friends of ours on the Right here slowly adopt the droning chant turning any of the very clear and blatant failings of this man (put on constant display for us not by the "MSM" but by his OWN words and actions) into "spun gold."
EDIT: Yes, the Rumpelstiltskin reference is intentional.
I am appalled that any thinking person can listen to the repetitive drivel that comes out of the man's mouth and even make sense of it, much less, praise it as some sort of populist gospel.
Thanks for remaining rational in the midst of the absurdity.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
What I see is a large group of Americans who dont support him because they see through the BS, and see him for exactly who and what he is....
Which is?
Let me guess... not presidential? temperamentally unfit? the worlds most dangerous man?
mmm beautiful misdirection.......i was actually quite clear in my post what it was.......
But I love how you took one quote out of it to try and direct the conversation in the direction you wanted it to go..
Well done sir.....
I apologize, but Trump is the most high profile candidate the world has seen in a long time. We know exactly what he is, and can refer to any period in his adult life in order to confirm it.
If you fear he is not conservative enough, like every nevertrump writer at the National Review, that would be a great point had conservatives in government conserved anything over the last couple of decades. It's a little too late for that.
I wouldn't mistake the sidelines for the moral high-ground, my friend. Trump is a wildcard, but he's right on the issues of today. He may be too moderate for the conservatives, but he has pledged to work with congress, and maybe conservatives will finally start to do their jobs instead of lamenting the slow demise of everything around them.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
TlDR: "I'm mad that people jump to conclusions about Trump's words and ignore the fact that people do the same things to Hillary Clinton. Plus I didn't want to put this in the rant section so I dressed it up with fancy words to hide the fact that I'm ranting."
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
In my opinion, what you have described is par for the course in American politics. Candidates are criticized, drug through the mud and every word inspected. It is not limited to just Trump. Your own words could be used to describe Hillary as well and she is no heretic.
Honestly, your OP comes off as if you are trying to paint Trump as some innocent victim and we should be ashamed for looking at his personality traits and question his temperament, in regards to leading and representing a country. You call it "imaginary". I would say it's recognizing the skill sets people may or may not have and hiring a person that has the skill set we need for the position.
Heritic? No. Trump is an asshole and should not be treated as if he is being persecuted, like those that would say the Sun revolves around the Earth.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
In my opinion, what you have described is par for the course in American politics. Candidates are criticized, drug through the mud and every word inspected. It is not limited to just Trump. Your own words could be used to describe Hillary as well and she is no heretic.
Honestly, your OP comes off as if you are trying to paint Trump as some innocent victim and we should be ashamed for looking at his personality traits and question his temperament, in regards to leading and representing a country. You call it "imaginary". I would say it's recognizing the skill sets people may or may not have and hiring a person that has the skill set we need for the position.
Heritic? No. Trump is an asshole and should not be treated as if he is being persecuted, like those that would say the Sun revolves around the Earth.
Apparently give the choice of an ass or a criminal to run the country...you choose the criminal. Personally I would call that a bad choice.
I fight every tax season.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
That just illustrates that some people will look at the Douche and will conclude that, while not ideal or even desired, they can overlook some things in order to have the leadership they can more easily live with. And other people will conclude the same about the Turd Sandwich. So, some think Clinton is worse and some think Donald is worse.
It's all opinion.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
In my opinion, what you have described is par for the course in American politics. Candidates are criticized, drug through the mud and every word inspected. It is not limited to just Trump. Your own words could be used to describe Hillary as well and she is no heretic.
Honestly, your OP comes off as if you are trying to paint Trump as some innocent victim and we should be ashamed for looking at his personality traits and question his temperament, in regards to leading and representing a country. You call it "imaginary". I would say it's recognizing the skill sets people may or may not have and hiring a person that has the skill set we need for the position.
Heritic? No. Trump is an asshole and should not be treated as if he is being persecuted, like those that would say the Sun revolves around the Earth.
Apparently give the choice of an ass or a criminal to run the country...you choose the criminal. Personally I would call that a bad choice.
I choose neither. Not Trump nor Clinton will get my vote on election day.
Perhaps you should not assume.