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From: aun-tv.com...
Title: Harvard Study: Illegal Alien Voter Fraud Decides Elections, 6.4% Of Illegals Voted In 2008, 512,000 Votes, Passed ObamaCare.
How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote.
Why does it matter how many? Should it be made more difficult or impossible for a citizen to vote simply to reduce the potential for fraud?
Can you cite where this is such a problem that many voters would be disenfranchised as a result?
I said that. I also said that proving citizenship can be problematic for some citizens.
Getting an ID when you're a citizen is NOT difficult.
At the expense of disallowing some citizens of their right to vote? I disagree. I would rather see a few fraudulent votes. I would rather see a criminal go free than to have someone unjustly convicted.
Protecting the integrity of the voting process should be a priority.
512,000 Votes, Passed ObamaCare.
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Phage
At the expense of preventing legal citizens from voting?
How is having an ID going to prevent legal citizens from voting?
From: watchdog.org...
An academic report published in the December 2014 issue of Electoral Studies found more than 14 percent of non-citizens in 2008 and 2010 samples reported being registered to vote.
“Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010,
Why does it matter how many? Should it be made more difficult or impossible for a citizen to vote simply to reduce the potential for fraud?
At the expense of disallowing some citizens of their right to vote?
I would rather see a few fraudulent votes.
Decisions on what?
Shouldn't we be making informed decisions?
Good point. Is there any such proof?
If you can prove this would have a detrimental effect on the voting population then it stands to reason that there would be numbers available to base such a notion.
I agree that it could important. I have not seen evidence that it is. I've seen actual data that says it isn't. This "report" is not actual data.
Especially in this election where illegal immigration is at the forefront in many political discussions. Having the vote tainted by illegal votes is not a negligible problem.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: neutronflux
Really? Is that a fact?
The Democrats stance there is no vote fraud.
From: www.washingtonpost.com... -one-billion-ballots-cast/?client=ms-android-americamovil-us
Title: A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast
Decisions on what?
Good point. Is there any such proof?
This "report" is not actual data.
I didn't know what decision you were talking about. What you said could have been interpreted as an election being a "decision."
Don't be obtuse. We're discussing a public policy here.
I don't think there is a state which requires proof of citizenship in order to vote. Is there?
I'm asking you. You made the assertion that this would have a bad effect on legal voters. Can you cite case studies proving this to be the case? Is there a state with voter ID laws currently where this is a demonstrable problem?
originally posted by: Phage
I don't think there is a state which requires proof of citizenship in order to vote. Is there?