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What is "Satan's deep secret" referenced in Revelation?

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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 03:33 AM
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Also referred to as "the depths of Satan" in other translations.

I have a few ideas about this, but I'd really like to get other people's thoughts as well.

When I first came across this idea, although it seems to read differently in the Bible than the way I remembered it the first time I came across it, it struck me that there was a "secret of Satan" that, once unravelled or made known, would be to his ruin and utter destruction.

Thanks.

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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 03:54 AM
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These are things that Satan uses to manipulate the world.

They include the immoral influences of the entertainment industry. There is no need to get close to them or experience them to know their corrupting influence.

It also includes complicated speculations and philosophies that do nothing but stoke the human ego and intellect. In addition to the immoral reasonings the list is long, but many are promulgated here on this website as well as in the MSM and the entertainment industry in general, they also include all forms of the occult and spiritsm, as well as the theory of evolution.

Basically the entire backbone of the ATS community, and the world society at large.

“However, I say to the rest of you who are in Thyatira, all those who do not have this teaching, the very ones who did not get to know the ‘deep things of Satan,’ as they say: I am not putting upon you any other burden. Just the same, hold fast what you have until I come.” (Revelation 2:24, 25)

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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: youandme

These are things that Satan uses to manipulate the world.



Bingo! But I have a different spin on the source point of the manipulation, which also runs through those other mediums and channels of communication.

I'll return in a couple of days to offer it, but for now I will say that it's "out of this world".



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork
My theory is that they were esoteric teachings of the gnostic type which the teachers themselves were calling "deep things of God". The speaker in Revelation is responsible for re-labelling them "of Satan", believing that to be their true nature.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:15 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
My theory is that they were esoteric teachings of the gnostic type which the teachers themselves were calling "deep things of God". The speaker in Revelation is responsible for re-labelling them "of Satan", believing that to be their true nature.



No. That cannot be, Jesus was speaking.

Also, this was prophetic for our day.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:18 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
My theory is that they were esoteric teachings of the gnostic type which the teachers themselves were calling "deep things of God". The speaker in Revelation is responsible for re-labelling them "of Satan", believing that to be their true nature.



I should add, the esoteric part may be true, but only as a small part of Satan's deep things. Also Jesus revealed this himself.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

dunno, maybe JHVH in disguise?



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:53 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: AnkhMorpork

dunno, maybe JHVH in disguise?


Satan hates Jehovah. And his witnesses.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:53 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: AnkhMorpork

dunno, maybe JHVH in disguise?


Satan hates Jehovah. And his witnesses.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 04:57 AM
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the 'deep' things of God in Revelation are the same 'Deep' things we first found in Genesis...

the waters of the 'Deep' that were present in the creation of the Cosmos... are what we understand today as being the phantom worlds of Quantum energies, the dominion of sub atomic energies like Quarks & Bosons, Strangelets

these energies, subatomic non-particles, are not constrained by time-space as the physical & observable universe is

It seems both God and the then named Lucifer were the only entities knowledgeable of this component of the Universe/Reality...
both the creator God and the anti-god (Lucifer-Satan-Devil) in the spiritual realm of heaven can manipulate the universe of human reality by actions on the Quantum world which then manifests in the physical world as 'supernatural events' or 'miracles'
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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

From what i remember, Satan will be forgiven. It's in the NT somewhere.

Fear Not... Life is a Roller Coaster, run with it!



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: St Udio

I can see where you're coming from. But it leaves out many things.

I was going to say it ignores, but I don't feel as if you are. You state what you know.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:04 AM
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originally posted by: VengeanceRising
a reply to: AnkhMorpork

From what i remember, Satan will be forgiven. It's in the NT somewhere.

Fear Not... Life is a Roller Coaster, run with it!



No indeed. He cannot be forgiven. He sinned against the holy spirit, and for such there is no forgiveness.
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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: youandme

Seriously? ... wow... no there is definately a verse in the good book that mentions Satan being forgiven. Only those who hate forgiveness peace and kindness would argue against anyone being forgiven. I hate that, it pisses me off to be completely honest!

I also told Peter to Go and Eat... after showing him a Vision in which all manner of hooven animals were ok to eat. I had to tell that idiot 3 times before he listened to me!

Learn from the past, learn from those full of awareness, because, if you don't you too will be left in the desert of no return.

Use your brain, that's why you were given one!
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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: youandme
Satan hates Jehovah. And his witnesses.

Yet he obeys every order from Jehovah and fails to go against Yahweh's Word. Satan is either Jehovah or a entity that is so stupid and clueless that he doesn't even understand that a rebel is an anarchist. Anarchists do not obey the Bible.

They are both glove puppets controlled by the same handler.

If Satan was a true rebel with real balls, he would have introduced world peace without the Mark of the Beast.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: VengeanceRising
a reply to: youandme

Seriously? ... wow... no there is definately a verse in the good book that mentions Satan being forgiven. Only those who hate forgiveness peace and kindness would argue against anyone being forgiven. I hate that, it pisses me off to be completely honest!


Yes seriously. You are wrong.

There are vereses saying he will be destroyed.

In fact Gen 3:15 already foretold it. The end of Revelations shows you it, and him, Yes, I am sorry lofty angel, great in splendor and glory. I don't feel happy about it. Even though you hated me so, But you will die.
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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:21 AM
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Only those who hate forgiveness peace and kindness would argue against anyone being forgiven.


Satan isn't just 'anyone'. He is not human.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:34 AM
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My gift is the gift of faith.

And love.

All who know me know this. And yet I am no one.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:35 AM
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a reply to: youandme

Ye are so little, filled with hatred and deceit. Love and ye shall be loved, hate no one. Karma will remember you.



posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 05:38 AM
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originally posted by: VengeanceRising
a reply to: youandme

Ye are so little, filled with hatred and deceit. Love and ye shall be loved, hate no one. Karma will remember you.


Please may what you say be true.

For mercy triumphs over judgement.
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