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Syria war: Russia rejects US calls to halt bombing eastern Aleppo

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posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday that the Russian air force would continue its support of the Syrian armed forces.

He also urged Washington to deliver on a pledge to separate moderate Syrian opposition fighters from "terrorists".

US Secretary of State John Kerry warned the US was "on the verge" of suspending talks with Russia over Syria.
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Depending on your definition of a war between sovereign nations, it could be argued that the United States and Russia are now at war with each other. Someone criticized me for stating that the U.S. was threatening war by proxy against Russia with the comments discussed in the thread linked below.

‘Russia will continue to send troops home in body bags’: US to Moscow (over Syria)

A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson had the following analysis of what's discussed in the thread linked directly above:


“Don’t you think that such ventriloquism about ‘body bags,’ ‘terrorist attacks in Russian cities’ and ‘loss of aircraft,’ sounds more like a ‘get ’em’ command, rather than a diplomatic comment?” Zakharova concluded.
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Now it's being reported that peace talks between the U.S. and Russia concerning Syria are about to end:


The United States warned Thursday that it is on the brink of ending talks with Russia over the assault on Aleppo, where the United Nations says a humanitarian catastrophe is unfolding unlike any witnessed so far in Syria's brutal five-year war.

Air strikes pounded Aleppo province while at least 11 civilians, including seven children, died during attacks on the city of Idlib, nearby Jarjanaz and central Hama province, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

With no let-up in the military campaign, US Secretary of State John Kerry admitted that months of diplomacy to end the war had hit a dead-end.
US-Russia talks on verge of ending as Aleppo faces catastrophe


I posted the video below already, but I think it bears repeating. The video shows an open discussion in the U.S. Congress about the possibility of WW3. I can't recall that happening in my lifetime.

One of the most astounding things about the video to me is General Joseph Dunford (The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) saying that the decision to go to war with Russia is "a pretty fundamental decision that [he] is not going to make." Isn't that an interesting choice of words? Who would be making that decision? If it were the decision of Obama the supposed "commander in chief", wouldn't Dunford have said that outright?


www.youtube.com...
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posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

There are wispers on the web that Oct. may see another coup attempt on Turkey .Putin is planned to go to Turkey in Oct. and Turkey and Iran have come to a agreement on the Syrian question and humanitarian aid . US stopping talks with Russia is not a bad thing as it seems to be a waist of time or is usually used by the US to resupply their proxies and regroup . Its too bad as the poor Syrian people are caught in the middle of all this evil .



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

The big news for October is the Chinese Yuan (renmibi?) will be added to the IMF's SDR basket. Basically China money will become an official world reserve currency on October 1st, and they have A LOT of gold to back that up too. That is this Saturday, which means next week is going to make for some killer headlines !!



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

US pushed it over the edge when they outright bombed Syrian troops..
and the cease fires were just

"guys guys time out... let me catch my breath, medical supp.. HAHAHA now we have bullets again you goofs!"

And the US is saying it want to create stability what?!

I think I know exactly how to do that..

Support the GOVERNMENT of the country.. You know what Russia IS doing.

So this is the most backwards I have ever seen the mind control/propoganda ever have to go.. It's litereally just saying the opposite of the truth it's so sideways..

and yes I view that as a direct threat to Russia.
I'm surprised there havn't been more incidents between Russia and USA already..

It's not looking good.



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

So maybe the Americans taking SA to court over 911 will get a whole bunch of US$ that might not be worth a whole lot .There is some big big things happening and one of them is not the US election .



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

the election hysteria as it is this time around is for the sole purpose of distracting from the official engagements of WW3, as well as to keep a blind eye to the threats to our currency value now that China has joined the Fray. It will be the only world reserve currency not currently part of the Empire.

The current ones are:
US Doallr (NATO)
British Pound Sterling (NATO)
Euro (mostly NATO)
Japanese yen (Oceania/NATO ally)

My bad though, thats off topic. We will have to do another thread on Saturday to analyze the significance of that.

In the mean time, I will always refer to American action in Syria as NATO, because it is mostly nato states involved from our side of the battle. NATO is upset that Russia is attacking the "white helmet" guys, which are basically terrorists working alongside our intelligence agents made up to look legitimate by prancing around as fake UN imposter look a likes. It was very quietly reported as this with noone acknowledging anything in true intelligence agency status.



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

I just watched the Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff... (you have in your linked thread)

That guy is deadly serious. as was the guy behind him.

It was for a hypothetical no fly zone enacted by the US..

But he stated it clearly in order to do that you have to go to war with Syria and Russia.



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: Reverbs

I liked how he also said "That is not a decision that I am going to make" . Smart fella. He will give the order to his people if it comes from above, but he certainly will not be making the decision on his own wit. He is very certain of what that entails, and wanted to make sure it was stated as such on public record. Obama's admin has a history of taking down or scape-goating generals.



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: Profusion


US Secretary of State John Kerry warned the US was "on the verge" of suspending talks with Russia over Syria.

He's gonna take his toys and go home? Good riddance. Send cry baby Kerry packing. Only when the US is losing do they sit and talk peace.



posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

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posted on Sep, 29 2016 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.

The insurgents can't field a regular army, they are guerrilla fighters, using the city to hide in and purposefully hiding amongst civilian populations to force the Syrian gvernemtdn and Russians to shoot at their own infrastructure and people to dislodge them. Now who's the assholes?

like member said, the Russian are operating at the invitation of the Syrian government, unlike the US special forces sneaking around illegally, who train and equip terrorists to overthrow a sovereign state.

Who's the even bigger assholes?



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.

The insurgents can't field a regular army, they are guerrilla fighters, using the city to hide in and purposefully hiding amongst civilian populations to force the Syrian gvernemtdn and Russians to shoot at their own infrastructure and people to dislodge them. Now who's the assholes?

like member said, the Russian are operating at the invitation of the Syrian government, unlike the US special forces sneaking around illegally, who train and equip terrorists to overthrow a sovereign state.

Who's the even bigger assholes?


Right. Bombing and killing innocents is only OK when you are invited.



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.

The insurgents can't field a regular army, they are guerrilla fighters, using the city to hide in and purposefully hiding amongst civilian populations to force the Syrian gvernemtdn and Russians to shoot at their own infrastructure and people to dislodge them. Now who's the assholes?

like member said, the Russian are operating at the invitation of the Syrian government, unlike the US special forces sneaking around illegally, who train and equip terrorists to overthrow a sovereign state.

Who's the even bigger assholes?


Right. Bombing and killing innocents is only OK when you are invited.

Only the insurgents are intentionally targeting civilians or using them as human shields, either / or. The killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians and the displacement of millions more is directly the fault of the US gubment and EU under NATO's banner. That came first. Finally the Russians started to help the Syrians cut the cancer out of the Syrian country. They're allies. I think they showed enormous restraint.

They know however, that NATO 'intervention' and 'humanitarian' causes produced the hellhole that is libya, can't get fooled again.



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.

The insurgents can't field a regular army, they are guerrilla fighters, using the city to hide in and purposefully hiding amongst civilian populations to force the Syrian gvernemtdn and Russians to shoot at their own infrastructure and people to dislodge them. Now who's the assholes?

like member said, the Russian are operating at the invitation of the Syrian government, unlike the US special forces sneaking around illegally, who train and equip terrorists to overthrow a sovereign state.

Who's the even bigger assholes?


Right. Bombing and killing innocents is only OK when you are invited.

Only the insurgents are intentionally targeting civilians or using them as human shields, either / or. The killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians and the displacement of millions more is directly the fault of the US gubment and EU under NATO's banner. That came first. Finally the Russians started to help the Syrians cut the cancer out of the Syrian country. They're allies. I think they showed enormous restraint.

They know however, that NATO 'intervention' and 'humanitarian' causes produced the hellhole that is libya, can't get fooled again.

Yeah. Assad gassing his own people and dropping barrel bombs which kill indescriminantly are OK though, right?

Just because he is the so-called legitimate ruler?



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: nightbringr

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Saddam is using chemical weapons against his own people. Let's go and help Iraq, by completely destroying it
Gaddafi is targeting his own people. Let's go and help Libya, by completely destroying it
Assad is using chemical weapons and is targeting his own people. Let's go and help Syria, by completely destroying it, while helping ISIS to gain in strength and power.

Wake the f##k up. What the west is doing is unprecedented and against international law. They are destroying countries whose governments they don't like and they help terrorists.

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posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages


You being serious? Britain along with USA have forward operating bases in Turkey and Jordan to funnel in jihadis/mercenaries from around the world, train them with weapons, then send them in through the back door into Syria to go murder innocent human beings including a holocaust of Middle Eastern Christians. It's sick and as bad as the Nazis

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.

The insurgents can't field a regular army, they are guerrilla fighters, using the city to hide in and purposefully hiding amongst civilian populations to force the Syrian gvernemtdn and Russians to shoot at their own infrastructure and people to dislodge them. Now who's the assholes?

like member said, the Russian are operating at the invitation of the Syrian government, unlike the US special forces sneaking around illegally, who train and equip terrorists to overthrow a sovereign state.

Who's the even bigger assholes?


Right. Bombing and killing innocents is only OK when you are invited.


Russia is defending a secular state and is invited in by the government. USA and my sicko government in the UK are conducting terrorist operations from forward bases in Turkey and Jordan, to funnel in jihadis and paid mercenaries, training them them sending them to kill Syrian innocents. We are seeing a world war right now on a small patch of land, so sad for the Syrian people, thank the lord Putin is there to hold off a final massacre of Christians/ Alawytes/ Shia/ Druze/ Yazidis/ minorities in the Middle East.
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posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.



Sure they are but what their doing is LEGAL and compared to the US actions moral as well.

Russia is fighting real terrorists that the US only give lip service that they are fighting jihadi terror.

In-fact most of the jihadi terror in the planet can be traced back to the actions of the US and its F___ed up ally Saudi Arabia

As for the killing civilians check your sources( western sources guided by the CIA and MI6) on that



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Willtell
The US invaded Iraq, illegally and immorally, and has the nerve to criticize Russia

Russia was invited by a sovereign country to help it defend against a terrorist led invasion which was aided and abetted by the US in a sinister coalition to intervene in Syria for selfish geopolitical and economic reasons.


The Hell with America…the lying hypocritical savages

And Russia is NOT there for its own selfish geopolitical and economic needs?

Last i checked, they are bombing and killing civilians too.

The insurgents can't field a regular army, they are guerrilla fighters, using the city to hide in and purposefully hiding amongst civilian populations to force the Syrian gvernemtdn and Russians to shoot at their own infrastructure and people to dislodge them. Now who's the assholes?

like member said, the Russian are operating at the invitation of the Syrian government, unlike the US special forces sneaking around illegally, who train and equip terrorists to overthrow a sovereign state.

Who's the even bigger assholes?


Right. Bombing and killing innocents is only OK when you are invited.

Only the insurgents are intentionally targeting civilians or using them as human shields, either / or. The killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians and the displacement of millions more is directly the fault of the US gubment and EU under NATO's banner. That came first. Finally the Russians started to help the Syrians cut the cancer out of the Syrian country. They're allies. I think they showed enormous restraint.

They know however, that NATO 'intervention' and 'humanitarian' causes produced the hellhole that is libya, can't get fooled again.

Yeah. Assad gassing his own people and dropping barrel bombs which kill indescriminantly are OK though, right?

Just because he is the so-called legitimate ruler?


It has NOT been proven that Assad gassed his own people it was likely a false flag done by a rebel group

Most reports say he didn’t do it and even Obama had his doubts. In fact the Army told him Assad likely didn’t do it.



Assad did not order Syria chemical weapons attack, says German press


www.theguardian.com...

dwahts.blogspot.com...



OPCW report: rebels used chemical weapons – not Assad




The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) has confirmed the traces of the sarin gas used in Syria are not linked with the Syrian government's former stockpile of chemical weapons. The report corroborates the Syrian government's assertions that the faction responsible for the chemical attack, as well as 11 other instances of chemical weapons use, was the Syrian opposition.


American ally rebels did it NOT Assad



The report also substantiates last month's claims from Ahmed al-Gaddafi al-Qahsi, cousin of Muammar Gaddafi, who said that the chemical weapons used in the incident had been stolen from Libya and later smuggled into Syria via Turkey by militants.



posted on Sep, 30 2016 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: nightbringr

You don't see how crazy UK and USA foreign policy is? Educating yourself by listening to the common sense of a former British ambassador to Syria is the key
www.youtube.com...




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