Tom De Longe with answers about UFOs, Life, the Universe and Everything...

a reply to: mirageman

MM is correct. There are some awesome U.S. UFOlogists. But as stated, the culture here (IMHO) is rather toxic.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Dan00

It's actually MUCH worse than that.

If one wants to be a world-class UFOlogist, one needs to be semi-fluent in most of these fields:

1) Historical govt disinfo cases.
2) Historical occult organizations since 1800
3) Basic skywatching
4) Basic perceptual misidentification
5) All books written by Vallee
6) Basic Earthlight knowledge
8) mythology and folklore
8) Hotspot knowledge (marfa, etc)
9) some basic physics
10) some basic military and satellute hardware
11) some information theory

Then you should be a practicing and clear-headed "shaman-like person" (other forms possible).

And after all that...you will still be missing pieces.

IMHO

Kev

Exactly. And mirage man, I totally agree about their ufo events they put on in the USA just the same bs drivle purely to sell books of bs. I do enjoy redfurns for entertainment value but the likes of steiger, (( doubt he attends Many)they stay away and these books are more science based,to a certain degree. Keeping away from UFO CON has its benifits even if you have a book to promote. We all know the types that attend these events there all die hard dulce,phill snider followers and there minds are made up. The camalot crowd as I call them.

I mean come on project camalot and there aaron MmcColem " Aaron is a part of the super soldier programme and is genetically half man half dolphin"
Facepalm just

Again back on topic, right cattle mutes.... I post about that some time today with what I know seeing as TDL did raise this question,like kev said for the most, man done it. But one case in particular if true is baffling.

a reply to: stealthyaroura

Well cattle mutilation is not my field.. but there have been a couple cases of human mutilations too. I'm not saying that "high strangeness" cannot possibly "materialize" something capable of mutilating.. it would seem possible.. i mean, it looks like some "MIB" are "materialized", and possibly some nasty critters on occasion.. but i think that sort of thing is over-hyped for the most part.. but i'd feel a lot better if I were an expert on Chupacabras or could get an invite to SWR. I'd never try to sneak there.. it would have to be an invite from Bigelow. Of course SWR may be a bit more modern mythology than real.. I've certainly heard that view expressed. Not that there isn't high strangeness there.. but it's almost like it's a controlled test.. like the guards and the people who break in, are creating more strangeness than ever existed there originally.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

what is your field btw.. And why are you sure that we live in a computer generated Universe, not that im not saying that is possible, but it is just as posssible that we are living in a consciousness driven Universe that expresses itself in Every conscious being that is in it. I would just like to know why you seem so sure what you say is truth....

a reply to: Davg80

I never said that we live in a computer genetated universe. We live in an information driven universe.
The two paradigms are easily confused and often intermix.

Another email has appeared:

VICE News

From:[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: 2016-03-12 19:44
Subject: VICE News



Ok-
Sold my first show for the Sekret project. VICE News will produce, finance and distribute the Sekret Machines Docu-Series charting my personal journey on how I met important people and how they are guiding my effort to communicate difficult themes to the youth. All the while keeping the names and identities of my Advisory council private.

This is huge. VICE is the single biggest, most credible and progressive news source out there. It's international, and it's all aimed at the youth. They feed directly into HBO and just launched their own news channel. (Check out the link below if you desire).

I hope you get my emails and I hope I am not bugging you. I am currently updating the Advisors, as well.

Rolling Stone will break the story on April 8th. The novel is in stores April 7th. VICE series launches immediately following, and we are placing the Scripted TV series now.

I am hoping to come meet you personally and talk in the next few weeks. I am talking to NASA right now, too.

www.businessinsider.com...

Best,
Tom DeLonge

Source : Podesta57684

I can't remember who it was using their contact to find out who was putting this 'Sekret' into production but now we know it's VICE. I am sure there's a joke in there. But even I refuse to stoop so low and make one!

Even though this TV series does not seem to have been launched as yet.

a reply to: stealthyaroura

As regards the cattle mutilations I had a look at it a while back see : Close Encounters of the Herd Kind: UFOs, Aliens & Cattle Mutilation

My suspicions are this is very much terrestrial. Basically a secret sampling of the cattle stock downwind of the nuclear test sites in the USA and looking for dangerous prion diseases. If you recall the mad cow epidemic of the late 90s in the UK there were few if any reported cases in North America. Some theories even go as far as to suggest that Alzheimer's disease is actually a form of CWD but it's all being kept quiet because of the $billions invested in the cattle industry and our love of fast food burgers.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Swr was the case I was referring to as baffling kev.
Now it seems the cattle that are cord out etc well this sounds like the scientific principle is being followed to a T. I bet the group doing it even have specialist tools for each part of the sample taking. Bell apparently had a chopper that was near silent back in the 60's for this use.

Now what we know is the cattle when returned muted they have some florescent residue they have been drained of blood certain body parts/organs have been removed and it's been done while the animal was still alive. They also show that they have been radiated,gamma rays? Anyway what the following causes the blood to do is that it kills the dna to the point that there is none but the blood now the red cells aren't damaged and what's more the cells divide and reproduce and create more red blood cells.

I read a theory that this would be like the ideal fuel but I'm not sure how some spaceship or whatever would use blood cells as a power source? I can't think of how that would work, what kind of engine and how would it work?

Obviously the human involvement is to monitor mad cow disease its also an ideal way to keep an eye on radioactive fallout over the states and monitoring it.
As mirage man said the usa and also the uk eat a lot of beef!

Apparently some group have been watching the cattle via satellite as the heat signature is a sign if it's not normal that chances are the cow in question may have mad cow and another group ( these are all human so far) are messing with cattle so if an outside element is taking them they see if they can learn more from there tinkering and messing with the cow that's taken by this non human group.

And yes it's a human problem too, body's have been found mutilated in the same way the cattle have. The Sherman case if it can be believed and I think it happened well that's the case that stumps me the most YET I could come up with a theory where it was still humans causing it, now it would involve some pretty exotic technology and some form of mind altering technology and possibly exotic illicit drugs maybe a gas and combine all this and the Sherman calf could of been snatched muted and the remains bought back and the Shermans would think it was unexplainable and not possible just like the story goes. Now I don't think in this case that is what went down,some black opp,no I think this was weird and like other cases they leave me scratching my head.

if a group come forward and admit that yeah sorry that was us doing this as a study on mad cow and radiation I don't think it would go down well and there would be law suits.

I know I have only scratched the surface and it's just what I've read so view it however you like. But it's one subject I would like to know the full story on,every angle of truth but I cant see this coming out and if TDL does address it with backed up facts from those who really know then I would be impressed but I think if it gets touched on it will be some watered down version at best or it will be a bs story that most of us won't buy.

Just my take ( written on phone so sorry that it's not a tour de force.)


Sorry mirage I was busy writing while you got your post off. And reading your post we come to some same conclusions. Cheers

a reply to: Davg80

Kev has left enough posts to piece together who he is what his speciality is and jobs and posts held there is a short sort of bio. And yes it's impressive! I love finding a little about the interesting folks on ats and there certainly are people who work on classified project's! Kevs was a eye opener from the little snippet found I was grinning and a little intimidated by his trade. But I would never out someone on a forum,that's just rude. But bits are there if you look.

Hey,I'm a groupy lol and many members have shared gold with little old daft stealthy and they all have one thing in commen. Nice kind people.

a reply to: stealthyaroura

Sorry mirage I was busy writing while you got your post off. And reading your post we come to some same conclusions.

What's puzzling is why DeLonge is on the record (well he's said in interviews) that cattle mutilations are part of the UFO phenomenon. Maybe I need to check the exact wording though.

Because, even if cattle mutilations are exclusively something terrestrial, then he's inferring that there is a reason for them.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

They naturally intermix. Consciousness IS information. Evolved, organized information. There is no reason why consciousness couldn't be digital in nature, and fundamental. Consciousness could have evolved from a simple on/off state, evolving into more complexity and becoming aware, then compartmentalising itself and creating individuality. Those on and off states would be digital in nature by definition. That would mean technology and programming are a natural evolution of a truer digital reality, rather than a simulated reality being an evolution of technology and programming.

a reply to: mirageman

Agreed.

a reply to: mirageman

Pareidolia?

a reply to: spacemanjupiter

I agree with you in principle.

a reply to: mirageman

Thanks mate for the link to your great mute thread, I missed that as me and my partner were busy having a baby so I left the forums for those early critical months.

Nice job it's a mind bender and I would love to know what's causing the really odd cases too,ha you read my mind when you dropped this in the TDL mix as I was dieing too also hehe.thanks.

a reply to: stealthyaroura

Enjoy the journey

I'm also thinking this is terrestrial in nature and what MM is saying is very plausible. All the rambling about gods is also making me think of some sort of sacrifices. Occult (inspired) involvement? (Although it wouldn't make much sense)

a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

All those big stories are tainted. It's like that but different.
All is equally right and wrong, no matter what description you follow, they hold truth, but are fiction. Kind of like what TDL does, fiction written with aim, purpose or intention has to contain some true points.
The current notes status. Nobody "knows" you can totally scratch that. The truth lies in the overlapping parts of the expectation bubbles.
Imagine you were sworn to protect your country. And you know that stuffs interacts very physical. You would follow that lead and not so much the "mental aspects" it seems to have.
While speaking logically it is pretty possible they are connected. UFO sightings very often come with paranormal activity. You've seen sthg you weren't supposed to see, that messes a good bit with your "interpretation of reality". Makes you ask questions.
Same goes for all woo experiences it seems. People turning their whole life around to follow synchronicity and hunch. All the bs-ing about it just makes it hard to cut to the core. Zeta-ridiculous. Scratch the saviour, scratch the devil, but it really is about the question: what's our position in the universe? What is the universe?
Also these modern myths, or "theories" if you prefer, have that question in their repertoire. Let's be rational. Before we leave from the "last known" we should agree on what that is.

All good stories contain some truth. But be picky if you harvest them, some are sweet fruits, others poison.

a reply to: stealthyaroura

I'm actually a very boring person, and the most exciting my life gets is coming home to my beautiful younger wife and having the puppies jump on me. There is nothing exciting to find out about me. I'm not part of any classified projects. I assure you most humbly, that you are letting your imagination run away with you. (I recommend staying on topic).

a reply to: mirageman

What with Podesta now being out of the picture due to Trump's win, I would imagine that this will pull the plug on the TD project for the foreseeable future. Oh sure, since Tom went all-in and double-down, he could certainly proceed with books and movies, as a private citizen with opinions. But that might be about it. Trump doesn't care about the "youth opinion on Government", and smirks and derides "UFOs" just like the smirks and derides most things.

Kev