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originally posted by: Enderdog
a reply to: mirageman
Are you refering to blue avians here? Either kind?
originally posted by: beetee
Ok. So these people in this meeting. Some pretty prominent people in the US Military, yes?
At least two very well placed individuals, when active.
And company connections in a third to, among others, Boeing and Raytheon.
And the host of the meet seems to be Podesta, rather than Delonge, if I read the relevant mails correctly. So I guess he must have made contact, yes?
Don't know what it signifies though.
When it comes to humans, there are always warring factions at cross purposes, even when they are ostensibly on the 'same side'. I'm very curious whether this is the C.E.'s plan..
originally posted by: Springer
a reply to: mirageman
You're so in my ballpark. I wrote something years ago that was published in UFO Magazine that said basically exactly what you're saying now. Thanks for the memories.
The world is not as solid as it appears everything is made of awareness. In fact awareness came first and everything else appears in it.
.....The third group is sort of like Edgar Mitchell-type. Positive, more spiritual, it’s more than aliens. Consciousness is the basis of this thing. That would be their take.
If you take a look at Tom Delonge, his is a very negative view. This is bad news. Aliens have been giving us different religions, different weapons and having to fight with each other.
[The first group Podesta and Hillary]
They’ve got all the intelligence sources. They’ve got all the money and they are going to have the best answer of what the intelligence is behind this phenomena. And it almost seems like it’s more of a straight core story that we are being visited by extraterrestrials, there’s been a crash, we’ve back-engineered some of this stuff and we’re doing the best we can.......
It’s fine for someone to say I believe there is life in outer space. Microbes on Mars or whatever. It’s another thing to say "They are here". That’s a big step. And Hillary has actually hinted that They may already be here!
This is so far beyond anything we can imagine.... if you go to Edgar Mitchell, this whole idea of you have two different laws in the universe. You either have Newtonian physics, we are separate particles in a random universe floating around and banging into each other. Or you have the dual slit experiment, where a particle does not appear in time and space until there is an observer. That’s the whole idea that consciousness is the ground of all being. This is what it’s about. This really, really complex scenario where we really don’t know what’s going on at all. We’re just getting little glimpses.
You ask the experiencers and you say, ‘Is this evil?’ Only 9% say it’s evil. You say, ‘If you had to do this over again? If you could get the aliens to stop doing it?
83% would say, ‘No, don’t stop it.’
....So we have this idea that it’s some sort of invasion. And I maintain through my discussions with Mary Rodwell that if you regress everybody deeply and you ask them, ‘Did you agree to be in this situation?', everybody will agree that this was something they planned before they came in here. That this is not abduction. This is an agreement to raise consciousness and these people are playing a role in the whole thing...........
...As to cattle mutilations, we may not know what is going on. Iit may look very bad, but if you were doing cattle mutilations, why would you not take that cow with you? Why would you drop it in front of everybody for people to investigate and make it so bizarre? It’s like this is message time. This is to make people think. Because otherwise, you just drop the cow and take it. If you need the fluid or you need whatever, why would you drop the cow? That’s the $64k question.
...It all comes down to this idea of consciousness being the basis of the thing. That’s how They (aliens and abductees) fly the craft. That’s how they move around in time and space. You have to understand 'oneness'. There is no time. There is no space. There is no physical universe. It’s all consciousness and it’s like a dream thing. 'They' understand this and we don’t.
We still think it’s a physical 3D world of time and space. We’re still living in the rules of Newtonian physics and we believe that things are measurable and that time is a real thing, and space is a real thing.
Which leaves us with just two things to consider
- what is going to be communicated
- why is it deemed important enough to inject into Hilary's campaign
We can ignore the first for now and just consider the second. Our own personal theories, from lizard people to spaghetti monsters don't matter.
The real issue is why put in the effort - not only in the public eye but also far more behind?
I did attempt to find out if there were any secret government documents that revealed things. If there were, they were concealed from me too. And if there were, well I wouldn't be the first American president that underlings have lied to, or that career bureaucrats have waited out. But there may be some career person sitting around somewhere, hiding these dark secrets, even from elected presidents. But if so, they successfully eluded me…and I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I did (chuckling) try to find out......