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Obama Vetoes Bill to Let 9/11 Families Sue Saudi Arabia

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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: Swills




Why would he do this?


Saudi is a major 'ally' and of course our president has to protect that interest. Not sure which relationship is worse and more one sided, Saudi or Israel.

And second I wonder if there is worry of the other side of this coin happening. If this door was opened, and the idea of people of one nation suing another is entertained, I wonder if there is some worry some fingers would be pointed at us for litigation.




posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

Binary mentality is the devil!

www.scientificamerican.com...

Read this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Talk about my 'conservatism' in there.


So you are 2 things. Which 2?

I read our 'obama prophecy' earlier. You posted it earlier. You like to post things you posted before multiple times. I didn't agree with it.

Though, I do love the song "they want your soul" and you can post that whenever you feel like it, even if it doesn;t match the thread.

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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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Don't pollute the thread with your ignorant nonsense please.

It's about the 9/11 veto, not the "conservatism" or lack there of from various members



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: reldra

Don't pollute the thread with your ignorant nonsense please.

It's about the 9/11 veto, not the "conservatism" or lack there of from various members


Do not tell me what to post or dictate what the thread is about. I understand what the thread is about.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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I'm anti-Criminal Establishment. This brings those in bed with the Saudi's into the fold (which is the continuity from Carter to Reagan to Bush to Clinton to Bush to Obama to Clinton) [hey if we're really lucky Hillary will "win" and then after her then Jeb might "win"]. Gotta have 'continuity of gubment', right??



When it was Bush at the helm you would have wanted to give me daily hugs if you got to see my work on him. Now its Obama, another bow to the Saudi piece of criminal elitist trash, and my work on him & her has me get labeled daily. Back during Bush 'everyone' was convinced I was DEMOCRAT.

See how I managed to still keep it on topic? I already showed you where to take anything this off topic to.


originally posted by: reldra

Do not tell me what to post or dictate what the thread is about. I understand what the thread is about.


Then it's your goal to derail the subject. We could already tell.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Swills

Yup. These payback policy things usually take place on a Friday afternoon...the fact that the MSM is occupied by riots and demonstrations in Charlotte were just icing on the cake.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

No, actually. In regard to that pic, I wouldn't. You greet a King in a certain way, just like you greet a president in a certain way. It does not denote anything in particular. God forbid an President do the slight bow to a Chinese leader and that leader give it back.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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Bowing with your eyes pointing straight down? Yeah, when you're their subjects you do that.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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It would be highly irregular to bow before the Chairman, or to expect one back in an official function.

China is not Japan



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

Bowing with your eyes pointing straight down? Yeah, when you're their subjects you do that.


No, it is ettiquette. It is different for each meeting of each country.

The Queen in the UK does not like to be touched, yet Michellle touched her arm. Press went crazy, Queen didn't care.

Different in all situations like that.

At different jobs, I would have to call the president of the company Mr. 'so and so'. At some, I could call them by their first name.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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Okay, then show us any other POTUS do it that way.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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Although I will add that the King should be greeted in a manner that gives the level of respect that he commands

By spitting in his face.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
It would be highly irregular to bow before the Chairman, or to expect one back in an official function.

China is not Japan


Was an example, I have not met the Chairman. If I was going to, I would look up how to greet him.


SEE.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

Okay, then show us any other POTUS do it that way.


I am sure any other President greets the King of Saudi in the exact same way, when they are the visitor. You look around for pictures.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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Wasn't the idea that if they allow this law suit to move forward, that would open the US to counter lawsuits from military actions/strikes they've done in other countries where collateral damage takes place?? Regardless, the families of 9/11 deserve justice, and so far, they've gotten a BS commission report and very little recourse
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka


Although I will add that the King should be greeted in a manner that gives the level of respect that he demands.

By spitting in his face.


That would go well for diplomacy of 70 years.

Hint: Do not seek political office.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: Swills

Wasn't the idea that if they allow this law suit to move forward, that would open the US to counter lawsuits from military actions/strikes they've done in other countries where collateral damage takes place?? Regardless, the families of 9/11 deserve justice, and so far, they've gotten a BS commission report and very little recourse


It would open that and more.

The 9/11 health act is pretty good.

if indeed Saudi Arabia is not behind this, suing them would not be good.
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posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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Our alliance with Saudi Arabia needs to end. Get off oil and all the mess with the ME stops.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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Although I will add that the King should be greeted in a manner that gives the level of respect that he commands

By spitting in his face.


At least Obama didn't curtsy.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
You like to post things you posted before multiple times.





originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

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