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Mark McConnell, man driving Jeep before Ammon Bundy's arrest, was informant, testimony reveals

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posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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So it's true. As so many of us suspected at the time, Mark McConnell -- the driver of Ammon's vehicle and the guy who rushed quick-quick-like-a-bunny to make a Facebook video exonerating LE before the truth could come out -- were right on the money. Pure government propaganda. Nothing more and nothing less.

Mark McConnell, man driving Jeep before Ammon Bundy's arrest, was informant, testimony reveals


Mark McConnell, the driver of the Jeep that Ammon Bundy was riding in before his arrest on Jan. 26, was a government informant who had tipped off law enforcement about the occupation leaders' trip out of the wildlife refuge, according to court testimony Wednesday.

Oregon State Police Trooper Jeremiah Beckert said that McConnell provided information about the occupiers' vehicles, their location and a basic threat assessment, leading to the high-risk traffic stop on U.S. 395 about 4 p.m. that same day.


This is referring, of course, to the same stop in which LaVoy Finicum was killed in their deadman's roadblock, although that was not allowed to be discussed:


Before the trooper took the witness stand, U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown repeatedly warned the defendants and their lawyers that the circumstances surrounding Finicum's death were "off limits." Brown went as far as telling Ryan Bundy that he was forbidden from raising the subject before jurors, and that she would have him removed from the courtroom if he didn't follow her order.


So much for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, eh? Of course, it makes it much easier for the truth to be glossed over too. Like this:


The government limited Beckert's testimony to the arrests, with little discussion of Finicum's fatal shooting. State police fired on Finicum after he emerged from his truck and they said he reached at least twice inside his jacket, where he kept a 9mm semiautomatic handgun.


Technically true... but leaves out the shots fired at LaVoy as he approached the roadblock and as he was stopping at the roadblock by FBI agents -- who then LIED ABOUT IT!!!

Or this:


He later learned that Ryan Bundy had been taken to a hospital for treatment, possibly for shrapnel, Beckert testified.


Mumford later brought up Ryan Bundy's wound. "That was based on another shot from law enforcement into the truck..,'' Mumford began. Again, Mumford was cut off, and the judge told the jury to disregard his remarks.


Out of earshot from the jury, Ryan Bundy had urged the court to allow jurors to learn that he was shot "by federal snipers who picked up their brass and lied repeatedly" about their shooting. He argued that the FBI's actions and alleged coverup of the shooting goes to the bias of the federal agency that was allowed to investigate the refuge occupation.


But the judge wouldn't allow the jury to know anything about the bad behavior of the feds:


"Whatever happened with Mr. Finicum — whether it was justified or not," did not bear on defendants' mental state and their decision to do what they did, which occurred before Finicum was killed, the judge said from her bench.

"The righteousness of it or not remains irrelevant in this case," Brown said. She further noted that the actions remain under investigation.


The plain and simple truth is that the LEOs discredited themselves by their own actions, and if the jury knew they lied after the fact then the jury would have every reason to believe they lied before the fact as well...

Can't have the jury knowing the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Then we might actually have real justice.




posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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Now it starts coming out.

Some Members knew this was the case as it all was happening.

Good topic.




posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen


Some Members knew this was the case as it all was happening.


Yup. It was all too convenient what with McConnell being released immediately to create that piece of propaganda filth for public consumption.

That's what infuriates me the most. Not that he was an informant. There is a place for those. It's the propaganda video he made to set the narrative.... and taint the jury pool... before prosecutors demanded a gag order.

Disgusting and despicable.... Or should that be deplorable???



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Very interesting! So after all the big talk from the Bundy gang—who threatened to go down fighting—it turns out that they wet their paints like a bunch of little girls and surrendered meekly.

The only one who put up a fight was Robert LaVoy Finicum, who challenged the LEOs to shoot him and was shot dead while attempting to draw a loaded weapon.

Mark McConnell is a hero!


edit on 22/9/2016 by MongolianPaellaFish because: added some other stuffs...



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: MongolianPaellaFish

You must be writing a novel... or just having trouble distinguishing between reality and government propaganda... cause I sure don't know how you got that out of the OP.

But whatever. Good luck with that.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Trust no one.

Be self sufficient, autonomous, and nimble.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

This X 3000



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

According to most posters on ATS, Bundy should have been murdered point blank for not following LEO orders.

Oh wait......he's a white guy.

Nevermind.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: Boadicea

According to most posters on ATS, Bundy should have been murdered point blank for not following LEO orders.

Oh wait......he's a white guy.

Nevermind.


Your point is very well taken, although I'm loathe to try to quantify the breakdown of ATSers who feel that way -- but yes, the irony is not lost on me.

Your words also point out another sinister truth... There is a coordinated effort -- a very vocal effort -- to focus all eyes on Black victims of police brutality (whether real or imagined), thus making it an issue of race, not excessive use of force, and the many reckless and negligent policing policies that lead up to too many officer involved shootings. Play up the oh-so-scary Black boogeyman and keep us all afraid of each other, blaming each other, hating each other, and fighting each other.

Divide-and-conquer.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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Dang it. I thought I'd heard the end of that idiot Bundy and dead idiot Finicum.


(post by Boadicea removed for a manners violation)

posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Is this a normal level of toxicity to this subject, or is it due to the election?

Anyway thanks for the update, that whole ambush stinks, regardless of what you think of the politics of the protest.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: CatandtheHatchet
a reply to: Boadicea

Is this a normal level of toxicity to this subject, or is it due to the election?


Unfortunately, this is about the usual level... much like in the courtroom, it seems lots of people don't want to know the extent of bad behavior by the government, and don't want anyone else to know either. But it is what it is, regardless of the "politics of the protest" as you so eloquently put it.


Anyway thanks for the update, that whole ambush stinks, regardless of what you think of the politics of the protest.


You're welcome -- thanks for caring!!!



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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Not surprised about Mark McConnell, that guy has an IQ of a 5 year old. I'm sure he is hiding in his safe-space.

Again not surprised a U.S. District Judge suppressing the murder of LaVoy, the coverup probably comes straight from the DOJ.

When you have terrorist in law enforcement, what is a man gonna do?



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 02:36 PM
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i thought the ambush was made possible by eyes on the ground...hmmm.

phone call leads to private negotiation meeting...wiretap? gps tracker? real-time satellite?

why separate the shepherd from his flock?

oh yeah, duh!



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: imitator
Not surprised about Mark McConnell, that guy has an IQ of a 5 year old. I'm sure he is hiding in his safe-space.


And that low IQ is becoming a prerequisite for the job because they are more likely to follow orders... in other words, not think for themselves -- or think at all.


Again not surprised a U.S. District Judge suppressing the murder of LaVoy, the coverup probably comes straight from the DOJ.


No doubt. The prosecution has made clear that they will be using no evidence from the FBI or testimony from/about the FBI agents involved -- only evidence and testimony from state LE and officials -- for the very purpose of avoiding any information about LaVoy. The FBI's dirty deeds in this whole debacle will be left out of the court proceedings entirely -- and just as you said, under direct order from the DOJ.

The prosecution will have to be very very careful though, because as I understand it, if any such information is introduced during the testimony of one of their witnesses, then the defense has the right to pursue that information on cross examination.


When you have terrorist in law enforcement, what is a man gonna do?


Good question. I don't know. But we need to figure that out darn quick.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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What relevance do the circumstances surrounding Finicum's death have in this trial? This trial pertains to the guilt or innocence of the accused parties in regards to their occupation of government property. Does Finicum's death change whether the accused are guilty or innocent in regards to the crimes they are charged with?



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 03:30 PM
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What relevance do the circumstances surrounding Finicum's death have in this trial?


First and foremost it goes to the credibility of the LEOs involved -- which was destroyed when they lied about shooting at Finicum both before and as he came to a stop -- and therefore any and all legal actions on their behalf either directly or indirectly. Including in terms of the actions taken by state LEOs based upon information provided by the FBI, and legal actions directed by the FBI.

The prosecution obviously thinks the traffic stop and deadman's roadblock is relevant because they are the ones who introduced it in court. They just left out the FBI's role in it.



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: Boadicea

According to most posters on ATS, Bundy should have been murdered point blank for not following LEO orders.

Oh wait......he's a white guy.

Nevermind.


Here's the difference: The protesters were never told to disarm themselves. Even the times they met with law enforcement, the sheriff and the FBI spoke with them in a civil manner. Guns never came into the picture except through the media naming the protest as an "armed takeover" or "armed standoff" when indeed, they were speaking civilly with law enforcement on a regular basis. The only shots fired were by law enforcement. The Bundys and others proved that armed protesters can remain peaceful and have the discipline not to shoot people. Therefore, they had to be demonized and dehumanized by calling them domestic terrorists when in fact it was law enforcement that created the terror that arose from the protest.
In my opinion it was the presence of so much social media that kept this incident from becoming another Waco or Ruby Ridge. Having Pete and others there showing what was happening probably saved a lot of lives.



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