a reply to: Phage
Was Earth "made" for man. In a sense, yes. It's positioning is quite hospitable to the complexity and longevity needed to create a being as complex as
ourselves. Remember my reference to jupiter and the required protection (provided by its gravity) from asteroids? How could we evolve without that
Life elsewhere is not possible.
You've read way more than I actually wrote.
No, life elsewhere in the universe = perfectly plausible.
Living on Mars or Titan = impossible.
Life on Mars or Titan? Yes, probably bacterial (i.e. about a thousand times smaller than one of your own liver cells). Multi-cellular life? Probably
Nothing is known about the origins of life. There are only hypotheses and assumptions.
There is a point in science where theory takes on the quality of fact i.e. electromagnetism, strong-weak nuclear force, gravity - no one thinks these
are "unreal", or aren't deeply captured by Newtons laws, Einsteins Laws, and Quantum laws.
Morowitz work shows an internal coherency in self-organizing processes in physical matter, and the tripartite organization he notes, to me, strikes me
as "law-like" as gravity, electromagnetism, or the nuclear forces. It just takes time for the old paradigm (and the people who make it up) to
internalize the new facts.
If reading long books with lots of biochemistry and mathematics is not your cup of tea, than resist commenting on it.
Or, read it and see why I'm so excited about the books ontological implications.
Science is about discovery - Morowitz spent a whole lifetime discovering the laws and ordering principles behind matter. He helped me, at least, think
of my body and being as one big "energy flow".
Still, Professor Morowitz was more confident dismissing dogma, like creationism or intelligent design, than specifying how life originated on
Hehehe. Something tells me Morowitz was a creationist-in-the-closet. He was a follower of Teilhard De Chardin i.e. believed that the "Omega Point" was
a real thing. What else does that mean other than a somewhat God-like belief in a "point" or unifying center i.e. God?
He didn't go about his science the way creationists/intelligent design advocates do, and hence, his brilliance as a scientist and philosopher. He just
showed - better than anyone else (includng Conway Morris) - that life had an internal logic i.e. a non-random way of cohering, evolving and
reproducing - all as a function of energy flow in far-from equilibrium systems held together by H20.
But I agree, we are a long, long way from terraforming. That doesn't mean we can't live there. We do need to get our eggs out of this basket.
I think its wishful thinking - borne from a tendency to not pay attention to dissociative-processes.
Just to be clear: life elsewhere in our universe, perfectly plausible. It just requires - as every thinking person who reads science and values reason
can accept - a set of conditions that the Human being just can't overcome willy-nilly.
Just because we can think about it, doesn't mean it's possible.
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