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Trump Refused to Pay Winner of 1M Golf Contest Prize Used Charity Money to Settle

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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....




posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....


So? I'm a liar? I made it up?

What are we discussing in this thread?

There are already sources and links in this thread.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....


So? I'm a liar? I made it up?

What are we discussing in this thread?

There are already sources and links in this thread.


I'm not saying you are a lier, but what you heard may be wrong.

The sources linked in this thread does NOT show that Trump was responsible for that million dollars mentioned in the OP.
edit on 9/21/2016 by Alien Abduct because: Spelling correction



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....


So? I'm a liar? I made it up?

What are we discussing in this thread?

There are already sources and links in this thread.


I'm not saying you are a lier, but what you heard may be wrong.

The sources linked in this thread does NOT show that Trump was responsible for that million dollars mentioned in the OP.


Yes, you want to blame the lawyers.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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Like I said before the OP is a load of crap because it has not been shown that Trump was in fact responsible for the million dollars mentioned in the OP.

Furthermore Annee's claims about a painting purchase by Trump for personal reasons has NOT been verified.

In fact no claim of Trump using his charity money to purchase personal items has been verified.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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I am pretty sure Trump using charity money for personal reasons is against the law.

I don't think the Trump train cares though.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
I am pretty sure Trump using charity money for personal reasons is against the law.



It is.

And there are multiple instances of him doing so.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....


So? I'm a liar? I made it up?

What are we discussing in this thread?

There are already sources and links in this thread.


I'm not saying you are a lier, but what you heard may be wrong.

The sources linked in this thread does NOT show that Trump was responsible for that million dollars mentioned in the OP.


Yes, you want to blame the lawyers.


Annee some people not associated with Trump held a charity event a Trump's golf course.....it had nothing to do with Trump.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grimpachi
I am pretty sure Trump using charity money for personal reasons is against the law.



It is.

And there are multiple instances of him doing so.


Link a source supporting your claims.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....


So? I'm a liar? I made it up?

What are we discussing in this thread?

There are already sources and links in this thread.


I'm not saying you are a lier, but what you heard may be wrong.

The sources linked in this thread does NOT show that Trump was responsible for that million dollars mentioned in the OP.


Yes, you want to blame the lawyers.


Annee some people not associated with Trump held a charity event a Trump's golf course.....it had nothing to do with Trump.


That's what you choose to believe.

Trump has a documented history of refusing to pay up. And multiple instances of using his charity to benefit himself.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
I am pretty sure Trump using charity money for personal reasons is against the law.

I don't think the Trump train cares though.


If it is your position that Trump has done such a thing then by all means link a source supporting your claims.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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another piece of nonsense article belonging in the hoax bin?

we should really keep track of where these blatant attacks come from.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct



Donald Trump once refused to pay a winner of a hole-in-one contest $1 million during a 2010 golf tournament, prompting the competition’s angry winner to sue the mogul, recently unearthed documents from the lawsuit show.

And when the GOP nominee finally settled the suit for $158,000, he did so with money from his charitable foundation, which is illegal.

The claims add to mounting allegations surrounding Trump’s ethics as a businessman as well as the legal and ethical questions surrounding his charity, the Donald J. Trump Foundation.


Link is in the OP.
edit on 21-9-2016 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Steak
Amazing, problems on the golf course are the best the left can do - how many scandals have the Clintons been involved in?


This is not about the Clinton's.

This is about Trump using his charity to pay his business deals.


I would like for you to quote where Trump was responsible for the payment of that million dollars for that hole in one. And link your source.


I just got through listening to a whole discussion on NPR about this.

I get it. You're trying to lay the blame on the lawyers.

However, this is only one incident where Trump used Charity funds to pay off business deals. There are several more.


Quote it and link a source.


Quote the radio discussion?



I heard on the radio today that Shillary died of complications of phenomena....


So? I'm a liar? I made it up?

What are we discussing in this thread?

There are already sources and links in this thread.


I'm not saying you are a lier, but what you heard may be wrong.

The sources linked in this thread does NOT show that Trump was responsible for that million dollars mentioned in the OP.


Yes, you want to blame the lawyers.


Annee some people not associated with Trump held a charity event a Trump's golf course.....it had nothing to do with Trump.


That's what you choose to believe.

Trump has a documented history of refusing to pay up. And multiple instances of using his charity to benefit himself.


And yet you can not find one credible source supporting this claim?



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

You keep saying that but refuse to answer this question. I'll ask you again:

Why wouldn't his golf club be responsible for meeting the course requirements of the contest they were contracted to host?



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Alien Abduct



Donald Trump once refused to pay a winner of a hole-in-one contest $1 million during a 2010 golf tournament, prompting the competition’s angry winner to sue the mogul, recently unearthed documents from the lawsuit show.

And when the GOP nominee finally settled the suit for $158,000, he did so with money from his charitable foundation, which is illegal.

The claims add to mounting allegations surrounding Trump’s ethics as a businessman as well as the legal and ethical questions surrounding his charity, the Donald J. Trump Foundation.


Link is in the OP.


Quote where in that link it says Trump was responsible for the payment of the million dollars mentioned in the OP because I read it and I didn't see it.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Do you have access to the contract that the charity had with the golf course that states all 18 holes have to be a minimum of 150 yards? Why would you assume that was in the contract?

Let's say that Trump is responsible for the yards being 150. Would Greenberg have made the hole in one at 150? Probably not, the variles of a hole in one are far too many to say he would have. But for arguments sake, let's give him 5x the odds of a what a professional golfer has to make a hole in one - 1/500 and 1/2500 respectively. 1/500th of $1,000,000 is $2,000. I think it could easily be argued that even with Trump being at fault, he only used $2000 of charity money that should have been paid out of his pocket.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Alien Abduct

You keep saying that but refuse to answer this question. I'll ask you again:

Why wouldn't his golf club be responsible for meeting the course requirements of the contest they were contracted to host?


Show me this contract you claim exists.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

It is called go away money.

It would cost more to fight and could go on for years.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

There are several more instances of self-dealing that were uncovered by the Washington Post. Thread about it here.

Here's the Washington Post article and here's a relevant excerpt:


Eventually, court papers show, Trump’s golf course signed off on a settlement that required it to make a donation to a group of Greenberg’s choosing. Then, on the day that the parties informed the court they had settled their case, a $158,000 donation was sent to the Martin Greenberg Foundation. That money came from the Trump Foundation, according to the tax filings of both Trump’s and Greenberg’s foundations.

Greenberg’s foundation reported getting nothing that year from Trump personally or from his golf club.

Both Greenberg and Trump have declined to comment.

Several tax experts said that the two cases­ appeared to be clear examples of self-dealing, as defined by the tax code.

The Trump Foundation had made a donation, it seemed, so that a Trump business did not have to.

Rosemary E. Fei, a lawyer in San Francisco who advises nonprofit groups, said both cases­ clearly fit the definition of self-dealing.

“Yes, Trump pledged as part of the settlement to make a payment to a charity, and yes, the foundation is writing a check to a charity,” Fei said.

“But the obligation was Trump’s. And you can’t have a charitable foundation paying off Trump’s personal obligations. That would be classic self-dealing.


Interesting fact I didn't see mentioned in this thread: Trump hasn't donated to the fund since 2009.




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