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Trump Refused to Pay Winner of 1M Golf Contest Prize Used Charity Money to Settle

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posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation



First, do you really believe Trump makes the rules for these event?


No.



Secondly, I didn't research the story


Interesting...



but if the rules said he had to hit it 150 yards and he didn't, then whose fault is that?


Considering that the hole was less than 150 yds. away... that would most likely be Trump National Golf Club as no one can alter the course but them. Which in my opinion, is probably why they settled out of court rather than fight.



Do I get to sue carnivals because they make the basketball rim purposely oblong so that the ball has a hard time falling in?


If the ball can still fit, no. If it can't then yes you can sue.



I find it interesting with Hillary apologists (you are one so don't deny it)


Cite an example please or kindly shove your ignorance back up your ass from whence it came.



that they are quick to skip over common sense reasoning to reiterate their own version of anything that can be repurposed as anti-Trump accusations.


All of this based on how you feel rather than what you know. Does this not make your reasoning your own version?

Irregardless of your feelings, the fact is Trump National Golf Club made a legal agreement to pay Martin Greenberg's charitable foundation 158,000 dollars regarding the matter. Instead The Trump Foundation which has no legal ties to Trump National Golf Club and does not posses any money from the golf club nor Donald Trump himself paid the sum, according to The Trump Foundation's tax records.

NBC



Truth is almost always more powerful than the individual who processes it. I suggest you explore your perspective a bit more.


I suggest you look at the truth in the sources provided for you before gracing the rest of us with your feelings. Apologist.




posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: Kali74



This guy never pays what he owes, never keeps his word... how can anyone expect him to follow through on anything he has said on the campaign trail?


They keep hoping he'll change.

He's been getting a sweet ride at taxpayers expense all through the campaign. Trump received $1.6 million from Secret Service


Federal Election Commission records show that the U.S. Secret Service has paid the Trump campaign about $1.6 million to cover the cost of flying its agents with the candidate on a plane owned and operated by one of his companies.


and not just his plane...


The Secret Service could also end up paying Trump's hotels to put up his agents when the candidate stays there. But those expenses don't appear in FEC reports because the government pays them directly.


Yeah, hope and change for things like putting his businesses in a "blind trust". Trump's as "blind" as a fake beggar.

Donald Trump's 'Blind Trust' Plan Makes No Sense


The onslaught of words, to the uninformed, may have sounded persuasive. Voters could be excused for thinking the Trumps had solved the problem. They haven’t. Worse, if the Trumps believe what they are saying, there is no question a President Trump would be America’s most conflicted chief executive, forcing the United States to confront a problem that would be unprecedented.


haha look how well Cheney's Halliburton "blind trust" worked out for America.

Trump's personal history as someone who does illegal dealings (like this one of several regarding his "charity") and making sure taxpayers help him acquire/keep his wealth makes him one shady person to run the country. He's nuttier and shadier than Nixon, and look what happened to Tricky Dick! We don't need a (worse) replay just because we hope someone will change.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?
edit on 25-9-2016 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

That's what I read.
The report said that the back tee was crowded with people and they decided to use the front tee instead. The tee was not moved.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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Here is David Fahrenthold's Twitter: twitter.com...

Here's his last post: "...and look out for more tomorrow, based on my conversation with @BorisEP..."

Boris is: Boris Epshteyn - - Senior Advisor to Trump Pence 2016.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: UKTruth

Ultimately it would be Trump and friends responsibility because.



an hour after Greenberg’s shot, he was “summoned” to meet with representatives from Trump’s club and the insurance company that underwrote the prize to examine the spot from where he hit his shot.

William Fried, one of Greenberg’s attorneys, told The News the claim was ultimately denied because “the markers at the tee were not set at the right yardage” and that“the course” — owned by Trump in this case — “traditionally sets those markers.”


Who was responsible to set it up properly?

Who was responsible to check those things?

What entity was hired to host the event?


Did you know that there was a women's tee off spot which was set at 135 yards and a men's tee off spot that was in fact set at 150 yards. The dumbass that got the hole in one teed off at the women's spot which was set at 135 yards then sued. Now if it was a woman that got the hole in one from that spot then it would have been a legitimate claim but it was a man.

Now the only reason the dude had a leg to stand on was because the men's tee off spot was crowded with so many people at the time he teed off that the hole in one guy couldn't see it. So therefore the guy teed off at the women's spot thinking it was the 150 yard spot.

So let's cut the crap that Trump's course purposely set the tee off spot wrong.

Personally I would not have given that guy a single penny as it was his responsibility to tee off at the men's 150 yard spot that did in fact exist instead of the women's 135 yard spot.

Also the way Trump settled the matter has NOT yet been shown to be illegal so we can cut the crap on that too because you can speculate until you are blue in the face but it doesn't get you anywhere.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?


Who is saying this?



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Several people have stated they "changed the course". That's not what happened.

The 150 yards was NOT a stipulation of the organizer but it WAS of the insurance company. That's why the insurance company didn't have to pay.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

Several people have stated they "changed the course". That's not what happened.

The 150 yards was NOT a stipulation of the organizer but it WAS of the insurance company. That's why the insurance company didn't have to pay.


Who said he teed off the woman's tee?

It doesn't make sense the insurance company would determine the conditions for a contest.




edit on 25-9-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?


Who is saying this?


It says so in the insurance company's rebuttal for the lawsuit. They also provided video and pictures to prove this.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?


Who is saying this?


It says so in the insurance company's rebuttal for the lawsuit. They also provided video and pictures to prove this.


It says he teed off the woman's tee?

You got a link?

In the conditions for the hole-in-one prize was contestant informed of rules?

edit on 25-9-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Annee

The rules didn't say 150 yards, that's why he was paid.

The insurance company had a stipulation of 150 yards and the organizer did not update the rules with that caveat.

The insurance company did a good job in researching the prize and covered their butts.
edit on 25-9-2016 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

The rules didn't say 150 yards, that's why he was paid.

The insurance company had a stipulation of 150 yards and the organizer did not update the rules with that caveat.

The insurance company did a good job in researching the prize and covered their butts.


Thank you.

That's sounds logical.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: Annee

That information has been there since this thread was opened. That's why this thread should be on LoL.

For all we know the check cut wasn't even part of the settlement. It could have just been something Trump/Trump foundation did to make sure there was no bad blood between a couple rich people...



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

That information has been there since this thread was opened. That's why this thread should be on LoL.



NO. All that is just peripheral.

The only thing this is about is Trump's Foundation writing a $158k check.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?


Who is saying this?


It says so in the insurance company's rebuttal for the lawsuit. They also provided video and pictures to prove this.


It says he teed off the woman's tee?

You got a link?

In the conditions for the hole-in-one prize was contestant informed of rules?






This is where the golf course may have screwed up. The 150 yards could only be accomplished from the far back of the tee box, where there were a group of spectators, making it impossible to tee off from that location.
The insurer reviewed the claim and photos and video of the shot itself, determining that the position from which Greenberg indicated he'd taken his shot couldn't have actually been the spot where he'd taken it.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?


Who is saying this?


It says so in the insurance company's rebuttal for the lawsuit. They also provided video and pictures to prove this.


It says he teed off the woman's tee?

You got a link?

In the conditions for the hole-in-one prize was contestant informed of rules?






This is where the golf course may have screwed up. The 150 yards could only be accomplished from the far back of the tee box, where there were a group of spectators, making it impossible to tee off from that location.
The insurer reviewed the claim and photos and video of the shot itself, determining that the position from which Greenberg indicated he'd taken his shot couldn't have actually been the spot where he'd taken it.


Thanks for the printed info.

I get all that. It's still peripheral stuff.

It's about the $158k check.

edit on 25-9-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

The rules didn't say 150 yards, that's why he was paid.

The insurance company had a stipulation of 150 yards and the organizer did not update the rules with that caveat.

The insurance company did a good job in researching the prize and covered their butts.


Thank you.

That's sounds logical.


Good so you concede that Trump was not responsible for the payment of the million dollar prize money. With that being said Trump could not refuse to pay the million dollar prize money as it wasn't his responsibility in the first place.

The Title of the thread should read .."Trump refused to pay a guy a million dollar lawsuit settlement after the dumbass teed off at the wrong spot then tried to sue Trump for the prize money that Trump was not responsible for paying out in the first place"

Also as you have learned there was in fact a spot at 150 yards that was set for the tee off.

The 150 yard spot was too crowded so the golfers didn't see it and therefore assumed the ladies 135 yard spot was the 150 yard spot.

Maybe the club should have kept the area clear but who knows maybe they also assumed that everyone was teeing off in the correct spot.

I know you like to claim that the Trump team purposely deceived these people but you are wrong. Period. What would the club have to gain by doing such a thing?

I'm done with this thread, I'm claiming victory!

TOODLES!



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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Double post
edit on 9/25/2016 by Alien Abduct because: Double post



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Grimpachi

Trump didn't offer the prize, neither did his course. You are confused.

The course IS 150+ yards, the ball was hit from the woman's tee which shortens the length to the green.

Do you honestly think it's possible to dig up a green and tee off to redo them without anyone noticing?


Who is saying this?


It says so in the insurance company's rebuttal for the lawsuit. They also provided video and pictures to prove this.


It says he teed off the woman's tee?

You got a link?

In the conditions for the hole-in-one prize was contestant informed of rules?






This is where the golf course may have screwed up. The 150 yards could only be accomplished from the far back of the tee box, where there were a group of spectators, making it impossible to tee off from that location.
The insurer reviewed the claim and photos and video of the shot itself, determining that the position from which Greenberg indicated he'd taken his shot couldn't have actually been the spot where he'd taken it.


Thanks for the printed info.

I get all that. It's still peripheral stuff.

It's about the $158k check.


Wasn't illegal.



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