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Trump Refused to Pay Winner of 1M Golf Contest Prize Used Charity Money to Settle

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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

No.

An out of court settlement means, by definition, that the court (a judge) is not involved.

Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.




posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Phage

If a settlement is accepted by the court in resolution of the case, who closes the case. Think about it nice and slowly Phage...the settlement has a signature on it usually...who's signature do you think that is?

The out of court settlement only means the RESOLUTION of the case was handled out of court and paperwork was submitted to the court asking the case be dropped. In this case the courts were ALREADY engaged when the settlement was reached, which means a judge was assigned to the case.

I explained a little of that process with this post:

www.abovetopsecret.com...[
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko




Think about it nice and slowly Phage...the settlement has a signature on it usually...who's signature do you think that is?

It actually has two signatures.
That of the complainant and that of the respondent.

Feel free to show otherwise.
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: thepixelpusher
You'd take the word of an attorney?




Are you an attorney?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Oh, hell no.
Though it may not have been a bad option.

Some of my best friends are attorneys.


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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: raymundoko




Think about it nice and slowly Phage...the settlement has a signature on it usually...who's signature do you think that is?

It actually has two signatures.
That of the complainant and that of the respondent.

Feel free to show otherwise.


If I am not mistaken, that is correct.

A settlement is what both parties agree upon so that it doesn't have to go in front of a judge.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: introvert

The settlement is entered into the court so it can be enforced. All the settlement does is bring resolution to a case without the courts issuing the restitution or finding fault. The only way it would never be handled by the courts is if a settlement was reached prior to a lawsuit being filed.

We are talking about a lawsuit that was already involved with the courts.
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko



In order to be enforced by the courts what do you think it needs?


It would need to be a binding legal agreement/document, agreed upon by both parties...and be filed with the clerk of courts.

I may be mistaken, but that's how I understand it.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Isn't a clerk of court a magistrate judge? It is in my area...

Edit: I see they don't have to be. So I stand corrected that an actual judge has to be involved, but my point that the courts are and the settlement is filed with the court stands.
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: introvert

Isn't a clerk of court a magistrate judge? It is in my area...


Clerk of court is responsible of maintaining records and paperwork.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: introvert

In my area all the clerks are also magistrate judges. Perhaps that's an OC thing?

I do see, as I edited in, that that is not an actual requirement of a clerk. My main point is the settlement is absolutly filed with the courts and that the terms of said settlement are in those documents.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko

There's nothing illegal about paying a settlement with a charity if the settlement called for a payment from one charity to another.


Do you have anything that states that's OK and legal?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Do you have anything that says it isn't if that's what the two parties agreed on? After all you are the one making the claim it's illegal...you have to prove it.
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

Do you have anything that says it isn't if that's what the two parties agreed on? After all you are the one making the claim it's illegal...you have to prove it.


You respond to a question with a question?

It was your statement.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
After all you are the one making the claim it's illegal...you have to prove it.


NO.

I'm going by what the article says.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: Annee

The article is based on a lawsuit that was dropped. Why don't you understand that? Nobody lost a lawsuit.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

The article is based on a lawsuit that was dropped. Why don't you understand that? Nobody lost a lawsuit.


That is not the only thing the article is about.

Apparently, that is the only thing you want to see.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
NY Daily News

I had to alter the title to fit it.


It was a million dollar shot until it wasn’t.

Donald Trump once refused to pay a winner of a hole-in-one contest $1 million during a 2010 golf tournament, prompting the competition’s angry winner to sue the mogul, recently unearthed documents from the lawsuit show.

And when the GOP nominee finally settled the suit for $158,000, he did so with money from his charitable foundation, which is illegal.

The claims add to mounting allegations surrounding Trump’s ethics as a businessman as well as the legal and ethical questions surrounding his charity, the Donald J. Trump Foundation.


This guy never pays what he owes, never keeps his word... how can anyone expect him to follow through on anything he has said on the campaign trail?


But the rules also stipulated that Greenberg’s shot had to travel at least 150 yards, a distance that Trump’s golf club, allegedly, made the hole short of, on purpose.


Like a carnival game. That's exactly what this slime ball is, a carnival barker. Sounds real great...


LOL exactly. He is a conman. Screw Trump, and Clinton. We ought to be voting for Johnson. I honestly have no idea why people would vote for either.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Yes, it is the entire premise.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko


My main point is the settlement is absolutly filed with the courts and that the terms of said settlement are in those documents.
Your revised point, you mean?


I means the judge signs off on it and the courts don't issue a value of restitution.


You agree there is no judicical (court) review?
You learned something?
Cool. Cuz that's the point. Right?

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