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Trump Refused to Pay Winner of 1M Golf Contest Prize Used Charity Money to Settle

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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
Well did anyone get the memo that an insurance company was supposed to pay this, it was there gig, but they refused so they guy turned to Trump.



Apparently he sued the golf course too, because he claimed they moved the tee box. There is no evidence that is true either.




posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

It was out of court.


So?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: Annee


Months later, the Trump Foundation cut a check for $158,000 to Martin Greenberg’s foundation

Hmmm, there's something quite interesting. The clip of the supposed settlement we saw specifically stated payment in 30 days or less. Last time I checked "months" was more than 30 days.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: Vector99
When exactly was the settlement executed (signed by all parties)?

Oh, you left out a good part of the story.

Trump’s campaign says to help pay for the resulting settlement, Trump donated lifetime memberships at his golf courses. They were auctioned through an online charity website that said proceeds would benefit the Donald J. Trump Foundation and Mourning’s charity. The winner was still required to pay $1,500 monthly dues.

Florida doctor Steven Shapiro had the winning bid. He’s listed as donating $157,250 to the Trump foundation on their tax forms.

Months later, the Trump Foundation cut a check for $158,000 to Martin Greenberg’s foundation, which got the settlement money.


The Trump campaign says the charity auction site made a mistake, and the listing should not have included Trump’s foundation. However, it could not provide any evidence anyone tried to correct the error, and the website told us they “were engaged by the Donald J. Trump Foundation.”
www.cbsnews.com...

A shell game. Something he has, apparently, done before.


edit on 9/24/2016 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vector99
When exactly was the settlement executed (signed by all parties)?

Oh, you left out a good part of the story.

Trump’s campaign says to help pay for the resulting settlement, Trump donated lifetime memberships at his golf courses. They were auctioned through an online charity website that said proceeds would benefit the Donald J. Trump Foundation and Mourning’s charity. The winner was still required to pay $1,500 monthly dues.

Florida doctor Steven Shapiro had the winning bid. He’s listed as donating $157,250 to the Trump foundation on their tax forms.

Months later, the Trump Foundation cut a check for $158,000 to Martin Greenberg’s foundation, which got the settlement money.


The Trump campaign says the charity auction site made a mistake, and the listing should not have included Trump’s foundation. However, it could not provide any evidence anyone tried to correct the error, and the website told us they “were engaged by the Donald J. Trump Foundation.”
www.cbsnews.com...

A shell game. Something he has, apparently, done before.



Oh look.

Someone read my link.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: Phage
That link didn't have a full copy of the settlement. Until we have it this is all he said she said hearsay.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: lovebeck

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Kali74

To be fair, the settlement went to another charity.

And this article has some more details..


A source close to the Trump Organizaion said, “We had nothing to do with the matter other than they chose to use our course.” The source added that Trump offered to play a round of 18 holes at Briarcliff with Greenberg, and if Greenberg won, Trump would pay him $1 million in cash on the spot. If Greenberg lost, he’d have to pay Trump $100,000. He didn’t take up the offer.


pagesix.com...




God forbid the truth come out.

Now, what's that about Hillary and Haiti again?


How does that change anything?

He sued. An out of court settlement was reached.

The issue is how the settlement was paid.

That's it. That's the only issue on this subject.


Lol. Okay. If you say so...



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Phage
That link didn't have a full copy of the settlement. Until we have it this is all he said she said hearsay.

Yeah. Well, more than enough of that to go around.
Don't you think? But what has Trump said about this, exactly?

Maybe the IRS will take note, however.
edit on 9/24/2016 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: lovebeck

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: lovebeck

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Kali74

To be fair, the settlement went to another charity.

And this article has some more details..


A source close to the Trump Organizaion said, “We had nothing to do with the matter other than they chose to use our course.” The source added that Trump offered to play a round of 18 holes at Briarcliff with Greenberg, and if Greenberg won, Trump would pay him $1 million in cash on the spot. If Greenberg lost, he’d have to pay Trump $100,000. He didn’t take up the offer.


pagesix.com...




God forbid the truth come out.

Now, what's that about Hillary and Haiti again?


How does that change anything?

He sued. An out of court settlement was reached.

The issue is how the settlement was paid.

That's it. That's the only issue on this subject.


Lol. Okay. If you say so...


Another fact.

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman's office is investigating Donald Trump's charitable foundation "to make sure it's complying with the laws governing charities in New York".



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Do you realize what that means?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Annee

Do you realize what that means?



Please explain.

All I see is "muddying the waters" to distract from the factual issue of a check written from the Trump Foundation.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: Annee

It means that for all you know the settlement called for a donation to be made from one charity to another. We don't have the court documents...all we have is the lawsuit that was filed, a lawsuit that was dropped when the parties agreed how to handle the situation.

There's nothing illegal about paying a settlement with a charity if the settlement called for a payment from one charity to another.
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko



We don't have the court documents...

The settlements were out of court.



There's nothing illegal about paying a settlement with a charity if the settlement called for a payment from one charity to another.
The documentation which has been presented show that is not the case. Trump has provided nothing to counter that documentation.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: Phage

You do realize a settlement typically has to be approved by the judge right even if settled out of court? There is usually a sealed record associated with a settlement. The "out of court" part usually just means they came to their own agreement on what needs to happen. The reason it is usually approved by the courts is in case another suit for breach of settlement needs to be litigated.

The only documentation that has been shown is documentation associated with the lawsuit. That lawsuit was dropped when an out of court settlement was agreed to.

edit on 24-9-2016 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko



You do realize a settlement typically has to be approved by the judge right even if settled out of court?

False.
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...

edit on 9/24/2016 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: Phage

True, and I explained why. Out of court settlements are usually collaborative law or mediation. Both include a legal process. When I say approve I don't mean a judge can reject it if he doesn't approve it. I means the judge signs off on it and the courts don't issue a value of restitution.

Nice edit, sorry you don't understand it though. The settlement is entered into the court system so that if there is a breach of the settlement you can get it enforced by the courts:

Source


A settlement, as well as dealing with the dispute between the parties is a contract between those parties, and is one possible (and common) result when parties sue (or contemplate so doing) each other in civil proceedings. The plaintiff(s) and defendant(s) identified in the lawsuit can end the dispute between themselves without a trial.[1]

The contract is based upon the bargain that a party forgoes its ability to sue (if it has not sued already), or to continue with the claim (if the plaintiff has sued), in return for the certainty written into the settlement. The courts will enforce the settlement: if it is breached, the party in default could be sued for breach of that contract. In some jurisdictions, the party in default could also face the original action being restored.

edit on 24-9-2016 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko




I means the judge signs off on it

False.
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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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Do we have a lawyer on ATS that can settle this back and forth?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher
You'd take the word of an attorney?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Phage

True. Are your emotions clouding your ability to rationally research this subject? Your basic definition doesn't even come close to involving all the intricacies of a legal settlement.


edit on 24-9-2016 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)



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