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India - Pakistan War looming on the Horizon ?

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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:07 AM
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So on 18th sept Early morning, 4 -5 suicide bombers terrorists from JEM(Jaish-e-Muhommad) attacked an Indian military base cross to the Indo-Pak border killing 17 Soldiers before the terrorists were Neutralized. Majority of those killed from my research were from the logistics. Close to 14-15 Grenades were launched in a span of 2-3 minutes.


www.thehindu.com...
Four slain ultras of Jaish were well-trained in GPS use: Army; Director-General of Military Operations speaks to Pak. counterpart; some militants were carrying with them items with Pakistani markings; Army says the attackers reached the rear end of the camp at 5 a.m.

Seventeen soldiers were killed in a militant attack in Uri area of Baramulla district on Sunday morning. Police sources said that fidayeen militants stormed an Army camp in Uri near the Line of Control (LoC) around 4 a.m. Four militants were killed in the encounter


Two days later, i.e yesterday. Indian Army reports that 10 terrorist infiltrating into Kashmir from Pakistan were killed in the same sector.


ANI ✔ @ANI_news
#FLASH Two more terrorists killed by Army in Lachipura area of Jammu and Kashmir's Uri sector. Total 10 terrorists killed.
5:00 PM - 20 Sep 2016


Now here is were things start getting suspicious, local journalists on the ground report that the men who were killed were not terrorists but Pakistan Army regulars.Now usually i would not take twitter seriously, but local jurnos in Kashmir have a lot more credibility than most journalists i am aware off..


aasifsuhaf News24 ‏@asifsuhaf 16h16 hours ago
10 #Pak Armymn Killed by #IndianArmy Nr #LOC in URI Sectr of North #Kashmir 2 days aftr #UriAttack, #PakArmy Cl bk soldiers on leave Sources


Now more news is coming in that Pakistan Army has canceled all the leaves of its troops in Pakistan administers Kashmir region, in addition to that Air Space in Pak Kashmir has been closed off. Indian Jurnos are reporting Tanks and Heavy Artillary moving towards the border. Retired Pakistan Major Gen. Tariq Khan have reported that in next 48 hours is Pakistan does not get enough support for their stance on Kashmir in UN, War is a possibility.

Currently rumors from the ground report up to 25 Pak Regulars killed, and fire fights are going on the ground as we speak, but this is all UNCONFIRMED news..


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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:31 AM
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Their differences and long time rivalry aside... They will be the first to show the world for the new war over fresh water. A Supreme rival and the second most populace country in the world sharing an arid climate. Things are about to heat up.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:31 AM
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India and Pakistan are not going to go to war. Pakistan's military are fully engaged elsewhere with trying to preserve national security.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:43 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi
Pakistan's military are fully engaged elsewhere with trying to preserve national security.


I would assume this is the best time to actually start a war, for India....



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: maddy21

originally posted by: paraphi
Pakistan's military are fully engaged elsewhere with trying to preserve national security.


I would assume this is the best time to actually start a war, for India....

lol, beat me to it.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:48 AM
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originally posted by: maddy21
I would assume this is the best time to actually start a war, for India....


Why would India need to start a war? What would the purpose be? Pakistan is a complete mess and India has enough domestic problems to contend with to worry about starting wars.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:56 AM
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India claims the gunman were members of Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), a terror group based in Pakistan and known for brutal tactics in India-controlled Kashmir to force the withdrawal of troops.

Islamabad has categorically rejected the allegations, describing the charges as New Delhi's attempt to deflect attention from the deteriorating human rights situation in Indian-controlled Kashmir.



Tensions between New Delhi and Islamabad are hitting a boiling point as the two point fingers at each other over Sunday's assault in Kashmir. But even as rhetoric gets heated, military escalation isn't expected—for now. Four gunmen stormed an Indian army brigade headquarters in the Indian-administered town of Uri, killing 18 soldiers on Sunday. Many called it the deadliest attack on security forces in nearly a decade.

Nobody has claimed responsibility but Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government accused Pakistan of involvement, labeling it a terrorist state for supporting militants believed to be the perpetrators of Sunday's attack. India claims the gunman were members of Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), a terror group based in Pakistan and known for brutal tactics in India-controlled Kashmir to force the withdrawal of troops. Islamabad has categorically rejected the allegations, describing the charges as New Delhi's attempt to deflect attention from the deteriorating human rights situation in Indian-controlled Kashmir.

The bickering between the two arch-enemies is currently playing out at the on-going United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) session in New York, where Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is expected to raise the issue during his address on Wednesday. What’s next? On Tuesday, Indian forces killed at least 8 suspected militants along the 800 kilometre border with Pakistan, Reuters said. Known as the Line of Control (LOC), the partition separates areas under Indian administration, primarily Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), from Pakistan's territories, which include Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir. More skirmishes are widely expected. But Modi's government possesses little elbow room for full-blown military action given the risk of a long drawn-out conflict between the nuclear neighbors, according to strategists.

Source
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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 03:04 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: maddy21
I would assume this is the best time to actually start a war, for India....


Why would India need to start a war? What would the purpose be? Pakistan is a complete mess and India has enough domestic problems to contend with to worry about starting wars.


Purpose would be to get Pak administered Kashmir. Getting Pak side of Kashmir will have 2 huge consequences .

1 - China's 50 Billion Dollar CPEC to bypass the Indian ocean will be in Jeopardy.
2 - Kashmir is known for its massive water resource, India would need it for its growing population.
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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 03:38 AM
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a reply to: maddy21

There has been conflict over Kashmir since 1947. At the moment, it's fairly low level terrorism / insurgency.

Water and CPEC are complications, but not reasons to go to war and set the scene of a perpetual conflict with Pakistan. There is not way Paikistan could force India out of Kashmir, and visa versa.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 04:09 AM
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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 04:10 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: maddy21

There has been conflict over Kashmir since 1947. At the moment, it's fairly low level terrorism / insurgency.

Water and CPEC are complications, but not reasons to go to war and set the scene of a perpetual conflict with Pakistan. There is not way Paikistan could force India out of Kashmir, and visa versa.


Pakistan is allied with China. On the less known side China actually occupies a part of Kashmir as well.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 04:12 AM
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Pakistan is a failed state, she's in no position to fight anyone.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 04:50 AM
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I wonder if they could try working together and eliminate the terrorists on both sides to gain a peace.

Sadly this response is a fantasy.

My kind regards,

bally



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 05:50 AM
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originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish
Pakistan is a failed state, she's in no position to fight anyone.


But there ally china is, and china has its own grudges with india.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: maddy21

Maddy, they been taking pot shots at each there since they formed their mutual border, portions of which are still in contention. Both sides need to 'show off' to their respective publics once in a while to remind them they are being protected from the evils of the other. Mostly religious in origin, The Hindus and Hindu Sikhs rivalry goes way back.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:38 AM
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Another one? What'll that be now? Four? Five? I lost count.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: maddy21

Maddy, they been taking pot shots at each there since they formed their mutual border, portions of which are still in contention. Both sides need to 'show off' to their respective publics once in a while to remind them they are being protected from the evils of the other. Mostly religious in origin, The Hindus and Hindu Sikhs rivalry goes way back.

Yes, but reports are showing there is considerable political pressure for India to act.

Each time something like this happens without a retaliation, the ruling government of the day loses face. Ie. Mumbai hotel attack.

Id like to look at the world worth rose colored glasses too, but these attacks ARE dangerous and do threaten to start something more serious between these two nuclear armed rivals.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 12:33 PM
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www.thequint.com... lise-20-terrorists

At least 20 terrorists have been neutralised in a daring cross-LoC operation by the Indian Army in response to the Uri attack.
Two units of the elite 2 Paras comprising 18-20 soldiers flew across the LoC in the Uri sector in military helicopters and reportedly carried out an operation that killed at least 20 suspected terrorists across three terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK). Casualties suffered, including those injured by terrorists, could be as high as 200, sources said.


Another Spec forces raid seems to have happened across the LoC, confirmed kills is 20 , causalities could go up to 200



posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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Pakistani local media reporting PAF F-16s flying over Islamabad, over reported sightings of large number of IAF Su-30Mki and Jaguar Aircrafts...
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posted on Sep, 22 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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Pakistan and India are both nuclear powers, right? If India does start a war, they have to make they don't beat on Pakistan too badly, or Pakistan's leaders might decide they have nothing to lose by hitting the big red button.


ETA: World leaders will want to secure the nukes so jihadists don't get their hands on them.
Well, Putin & the Chinese will want to secure the nukes. Obama and Angela Merkel will probably do their best to make sure the terrorists do get them.
edit on 22-9-2016 by AndyFromMichigan because: Added thoughts



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