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originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth
Trump said that we're letting in people as immigrants that are dangerous ... either because they're rapists, drug dealers and/or terrorists.
Yes or no? Is that the reason for "extreme vetting" or not?
Is his solution to deal with terrorists "waterboarding and worse" or not?
You don't have to like what your man says, but don't misrepresent something we all know to be true.
Post the link that shows Trump saying he wants to waterboard immigrants as part of vetting.
Put up or shut up.
Why don't you post the one where he clarifies that's not what he wants to do?
I mean, he must have said it very clearly, if the two things are separate in his mind, right?
Are you saying Trump has not stated, clearly, that immigration is used to send terrorists, rapists, drug dealers, etc. here?
Are you saying that Trump has not stated, clearly, what he's wiling to do to keep us safe from terrorists?
You do the math.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
It's not rocket science.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Trump has said, clearly (and quoted here) that immigration is a national security issue.
Trump has said, clearly that he's glad to use waterboarding and worse in matters of national security.
Trump has made it clear that he views immigration as the source of one of the greatest dangers to our national security: terrorism.
It's not rocket science.
originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: poncho1982
I really don't want to accuse you of pushing an agenda or anything - everything media related is tainted by Islamophobia these days.
But if you want a real picture of Islam, look no further than the El Geniza Synagogue in Cairo and the records found there. When "discovered", it contained hundreds of thousands of records of life and daily interactions under the Fatimid Caliphates between the 10th and 13th Centuries, as well as having records dating back far earlier including an original Hebrew text of of the Book of Wisdom by Ben Sira that became Ecclisiastics in the Bible. This period was during the Crusades and yet still paints a life of tolerance and education.
Bottom line, Islam has always been a tolerant religion. A few crazy Imams does not change that. Yes, Islam has problems but this narrative of saying Islam is not tolerant is so far from the truth it is unreal.
originally posted by: svetlana84
a reply to: Flavian
Yes, different schools, different regions, moderates vs extremists and all that.
But: can you name any scientist from a muslim region?
An university from a muslim region which has produced anything in the last decades?
Any inventions apart from IEDs and mortars made from camping gas kegs? (fair enough, that s some McGyver stuff).
Everything slightly remembering of culture, science is utterly destroyed by ISIS. They don t care about anything else than their death cult.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Trump has made it clear that he views immigration as the source of one of the greatest dangers to our national security: terrorism.
Just how many people in a day, on average, die from terrorism on American soil?