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The Real Story Behind Pepe The Frog

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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove


Who the heck is "crying" ... The claim was made that the topic has nothing to do with Spencer's alt right and I demonstrated that it does.

Why are you so desperate to pretend it doesn't?




posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Actually it doesn't. This thread is about the origins of Pepe, Kek and the Egyptian God conspiracy. It spawned from a thread that actually was about Pepe and the Alt-Right. We should be discussing that there not here.

This is the thread where we would actually be on topic

Oh and my issue is that identity politics is bull#. I posted a thread on that.
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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Gryphon66

Actually it doesn't. This thread is about the origins of Pepe, Kek and the Egyptian God conspiracy. It spawned from a thread that actually was about Pepe and the Alt-Right. We should be discussing that there not here.


LOL but you've been glad to discuss it here for six or seven posts ... You only default to "off topic" when called on your attempts to minimize some very clear connections in Pepe's origins.

Interesting.
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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: SprocketUK

Is same as taking on animal totems.


No doubt at all. When I was much younger if it was looking like I was getting in a fight, where you are still at the verbal stage, I would imagine my aura stretching up into some kind of 7 ft tall, snarling werewolf thing.

Daft really, but it used to calm my nerves a bit and I am sure it helped bring my aggression out.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: SprocketUK

Is same as taking on animal totems.


No doubt at all. When I was much younger if it was looking like I was getting in a fight, where you are still at the verbal stage, I would imagine my aura stretching up into some kind of 7 ft tall, snarling werewolf thing.

Daft really, but it used to calm my nerves a bit and I am sure it helped bring my aggression out.


These days you'd have to refer to a Patronus for kids to know what you're talking about.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I admitted fault for being off topic already. Then you started back up again. Now I'm trying to fulfill the wishes of another poster and respect the thread.

I do admit though that pride blinded me for a bit causing me to respond to your off topic post rather than respect the thread like I should have when you decided to rekindle the off topic conversation.

So yeah, I'm an asshole for letting you drag me back into this instead of immediately directing you to that thread. I'll admit it and own up to it.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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I once won a fight by snarling, drooling and barking like a dog, lol. It confused and freaked out my opponent, they eventually said, "# this #, you're nuts." It had an empowering effect too, cause by acting like an animal it kinda made me feel like one, savage and brutal.

The mind is interesting. But that's empowering ourselves sort of as a placebo effect.

The question is can, like with Pepe, this power of placebo and necebo extend beyond ourselves?
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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Ah.

That must be it then.

More liberal mind control.

The topic here is Origins of Pepe. If anything I've said is off topic I'm sure the Mods will let me know.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: SargonThrall
a reply to: saintdopeium

This is completely based on falsehoods. The image they use is NOT of Kuk but of Heket, and she is a Goddess of childbirth, not light or chaos. They have deliberately taken a female statue of Heket and twisted it into a male of a different name to suit their beliefs. There are also no vowels in Egyptian so they cannot claim the spelling is the same.

Kuk's hieroglyph looks like so:

The Egyptian god of chaos was Apophis/Apep, and even if you think this name is close enough, it was a snake, not a frog. Deny ignorance, please.


What if the statue is Kek in transgender form?




posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

I'm sure it can. There's all sorts of odd stuff going on from the observer effect in quantum theory to things like Mandela effects seemingly growing and touching many people. Some things must, I guess, reach a critical mass and tip into being somehow.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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No the point is you can't argue with a cartoon frog.


You can't fight memes you don't like with reason, they often have an irrational appeal, that's why they work.

Hillary campaign trying to tie Pepe (An Incarnation of KeK?) to white supremacy movement was the wrong political move many groups (including random trollz) use Pepe. They used a massive brush stroke to try and paint the opposition as something morally repugnant by association. They should have just appropriated Pepe and made their own memes.

The only way this tactic works is with people who never look into anything and take MSM content at face value, but any cursory look at Pepe memes show a massive variety of memes targeting all sorts of things, and somthing like this will be googled. (The people will then see the memes - that would never have crossed their path otherwise - an own goal by HRC campaign)



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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There was still the Frog headed God kuk or Kek though even if they did use an image of Heket, who was associated with the dawn, in particular the twilight zone, and as an added layer of complexity it could be noted that the Alt-Right refers to Conservatives as 'cuk's' as in cuckolded, thus the cukservatives.


As a god of the night, Kek was also related to the day - he was called the "bringer-in of the light". This seems to mean that he was responsible for the time of night that came just before sunrise. The god of the hours before day dawned over the land of Egypt. This was the twilight which gave birth to the sun.



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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: CatandtheHatchet

I agree with you; that is the point I was trying to make with Puppylove.

This is not linear thought ... This is metaphors and metonomy ... Or what OP was kinda close to with an insinuation of Magic(k).

Heka actually but why quibble.

I'm not supporting Clintons attacks on Pepe; in fact she's part of the game. It's no fun to troll if no one reacts is it?



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: Kantzveldt

I thought about the Kek/Cuck elision.

I'm too busy mind controlling folks though LOL.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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Origins is the key word you're missing.

You however seem to want to turn Pepe into a symbol of white nationalism, because you are doing everything in you power to help those trying to subvert the symbol for that purpose to do so by refusing to accept Pepe as anything but such a symbol.

Pepe is not copyrighted, they are free to use the meme to promote the alt-right, same as anyone else can use the meme for whatever the # they want. Even the way this thread, which involves the actual origins of Pepe and thus first claim, is doing so. You're giving the Alt-Right you supposedly oppose the power to claim whatever they desire through association. They have no actual claim to Pepe, so why are you insisting they own him?

Also when I called myself an asshole, I was actually calling myself an asshole because I allowed myself to be baited back into the conversation. No liberal mind control. I own my actions.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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So now I'm the one subverting Pepe?

LOL

We're off topic. Let's move on.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:55 PM
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Fair enough, I try not to troll its smacks of projected emotional vamprism.

Considering Kek, reminds me of blood for the blood god, no matter which sides blood gets spilled the god is empowered. So why spill blood?



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:57 PM
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If you agree with Cat, then why are we having this conversation? I'm now completely confused.

Cause Cat's saying what I've been saying.

I think we've been talking around each other. Moving on.
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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: CatandtheHatchet
a reply to: Gryphon66

Fair enough, I try not to troll its smacks of projected emotional vamprism.

Considering Kek, reminds me of blood for the blood god, no matter which sides blood gets spilled the god is empowered. So why spill blood?


That is exactly why Spencer called out Pepe in his speech I linked earlier and why there was an anonymously uttered "Pepe" in response to Clintons speech.

Very insightful, particularly if the reference to chaos was intentional!



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Kantzveldt

I'm not up on my Egyptian Gods... It seems we're getting two opposing view points. Who's right? Where's some actual sources?



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