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starwars51
In a perfectly efficient system takes about 25% more power to produce hydrogen from water than you can get out of it in a 100% efficient engine. In the real world that is a huge difference. There is no plausable way for Wind power to provide the worlds energy needs (plus about 50% energy loss in producing hydrogen). If not for the cost of purchasing/mainting the turbines, imagine the environmental impact on those few places that are really suitable for wind power.
Originally posted by Murcielago
starwars51
In a perfectly efficient system takes about 25% more power to produce hydrogen from water than you can get out of it in a 100% efficient engine. In the real world that is a huge difference. There is no plausable way for Wind power to provide the worlds energy needs (plus about 50% energy loss in producing hydrogen). If not for the cost of purchasing/mainting the turbines, imagine the environmental impact on those few places that are really suitable for wind power.
I wasn't referring to all the worlds electrical needs to be met by turbines. I was just talking about how they could power the facility that does the hydrogen extracting by wind, General Electric's newest and biggest wind turbine is a 5 megawatt.
and I know that it needs more electricity to get it then it produces, but the thing you keep missing is that its clean and portable.
Originally posted by poonchang
To me, it has to do with two things: money and horsepower. I'm no mechanic, but it seems that it would too expensive to drive a muscle car fueled by something other than oil
starwars51
Clean - Maybe. But Noisy, requires a bunch of space, costly, and not portable (there are very limited areas with steady/strong winds - at least to make enough to make wind power feasable).
Originally posted by poonchang
To me, it has to do with two things: money and horsepower. I'm no mechanic, but it seems that it would too expensive to drive a muscle car fueled by something other than oil. Oil is also a nonrenewable resource, money can be made off it.
broken_halo
thats also the problem the north american fixation with size and horsepower has to and will come to and end. who will want to drive a viper that gets 8mpg or worse an H2 *shudders* when oil gets to $4 a gallon.
Originally posted by Murcielago
Currently it takes a little more electricity to extract the hydrogen from water, then you will get out of it in your vehicle, but whats wrong with that?
[edit on 23-1-2005 by Murcielago]
Originally posted by Tahlen
"The US has some of the lowest oil prices in the world, it isn't taxed the hell out of. Go to Europe, then complain about gas prices breaking 2 bucks a gallon here. "
how many people live in Europe compared to US? Maybe that is why the prices for their gas is so high?
Im sure the US does the same