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We Stopped Beleiving In Witches, When's The Bibles Turn?

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posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by deesw
I do not understand how in the world you or anyone else can dignify or rationalize witchcraft with explanations of medicine and aid. That is absurd. The Bible clearly states to avoid witchcraft, do not conjure spirits or consult mediums and so forth and so forth.

Not everyone is Christian....not everyone believes in the bible...."you" believe, but it' doesn't mean it's true...


thats quite a good point, no, what christians believe in might not be true... and neither may other religions... i guess we will not know till we die... and hopefully thats a long time from now... but how about we all agree on one thing first.....

there HAS to be a higher/supreme being/s, other wise there would be no universe




posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by stalkingwolf



Anyways, witches are as real as toilet paper, except toilet paper serves a purpose


you might just find how real witches are. you may well have just kisded over a bloody hornets nest, as there are several here. including myself and wife.

you know it has been said it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

i guess its a little late for you to take that advise.


i didnt men that to take direct offence to people, it was just a comment to the person who made an earlier comment about the bible in the same tone, if you take offence , i really am sorry, it wasnt to give offence to you, but the person who wrote the comment taward the bible.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by ivanglam


Anyways, witches are as real as toilet paper, except toilet paper serves a purpose

frankly yours.


Ok...The bible is book, written by man, put together by man, has been added to, taken away from, and torn apart by man. I am a human being. A good one I think. I am intelligent, compassionate, too kind hearted I don't drink, smoke, do any drugs, cheat or lie...I am however, too opinionated, stubborn and sometimes I can be insecure and secretive to a degree..., my mother, my grandmother, my great grandmother, all mush like myself...all were human beings...we are also Witches....there is a difference here between saying a book is not real and a person is not real.....that would be like saying Christians are not real......
It was an absurd and silly thing to say!



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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You know, if we all just *respected* one another's beliefs, no one would be offended. I am NOT offended by someone else's beliefs. Does NOT mean I agree with them, but I respect their personal convictions.

I ask for the same in return. (that crazy golden rule thing)

To come in and say "The bible is untrue and for morons who are too stupid to think for themselves" or "Witches are stupid and not real, a bunch of fairytales" is just offensive. Do I think there are witches?? Yes, good and bad ones. Do I think there are Christians, yes, ones who are kind and some who are not. Some who use the bible as a way to live their life and give thanks. Some who use it to try and shame people. Try and mainuplate people

People are people. Not everyone will agree with you. Have convictions in your beliefs. Have pride in what you do. Treat people kindly and don't belittle people to raise yourself.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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I understand that not everyone is Christian, but everyone is born with a sense of right and wrong. You can't deny that.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by deesw
I understand that not everyone is Christian, but everyone is born with a sense of right and wrong. You can't deny that.

What's that got to do with different religions and beliefs? It makes no sense



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:20 PM
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"I do not understand how in the world you or anyone else can dignify or rationalize witchcraft with explanations of medicine and aid. That is absurd. The Bible clearly states to avoid witchcraft, do not conjure spirits or consult mediums and so forth and so forth. I would only assume that anyone that tries to make excuses for witchcraft or to downgrade it's danger could not be a Christian. To try and conjure spirits or use witchcraft is to try and emulate GOD. Try and remember what happened when SATAN tried it"


What you call witchcraft are countless peoples healing sick, ill, infirmed children, adults, and families. This is Historical fact, and nobody can alter that. We call it the Burning times, the witch hunts, etc. This happened and we still have not learned from it.


If the Bible clearly states to avoid witchcraft, why does Samuel conjure one? what you call a Medium others call the Prophet Daniel, Ezekiel, Enoch, and hundreds of others. it is by their works that we discern good or bad. simply labeling someone a Medium does not make them evil.
Do you consider astrology witchcraft? God uses a star to guide zoroasteran astronomers to the birth of Jesus, The stars and planets are created by God to predict the seasons and things to come (divination)

I dont downgrade the power a true Witch has access too, it can be dangerous, as it is powerfull and Divine. It is not for anyone to play with. as far as Being A Christian, probably not by your definition. However i do know God, Jesus and the immortality of my Soul.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:21 PM
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You need to read Revelations 22:18 and 19.
No man shall add to or take away from this book.
The Bible is the inspired word of GOD. Do you really think GOD would give us his word to follow and allow it to be translated incorrectly. Don't think so.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:24 PM
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I think that you have been misinformed when you say that Daniel or any other prophet in the Bible conjured spirits or used mediums. That sounds like the words of a witch trying to feel better for what they do.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by deesw
You need to read Revelations 22:18 and 19.
No man shall add to or take away from this book.
The Bible is the inspired word of GOD. Do you really think GOD would give us his word to follow and allow it to be translated incorrectly. Don't think so.

Ummmm, you can't quote bible to prove a point to people that do not believe in the bible
I think it has been proven enough here that the bible is mistranslated, taken from and added to....do a search and read....Everyone has a right to believe in what they wish...but you have to keep to facts and it is a fact that bible has been changed, rearranged and mistranslated!



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:27 PM
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Of course it makes sense. How often do you see witches practicing in broad daylight and where everyone can see them. It happens, but most of us only hide our actions when they are wrong.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:29 PM
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Show me facts then that what you are saying is correct, and then show me one person in history that has proved that the Bible is incorrect and that Jesus was not who he said he was.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:31 PM
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read about the sybilline prophecies, which is the source of the book of revelation. The sybil books preceed revelation by 800 years and are the prototype of revelation. These were very popular books In Rome for hundreds of years before john or jesus walked the earth.

Many parables and stories in the Bible are Phonician and Summerian stories that the Hebrews borrowed, modified and translated. The Hebrew alphabet is taken directly from the phoenician, which is why these stories are copies.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by deesw
Of course it makes sense. How often do you see witches practicing in broad daylight and where everyone can see them. It happens, but most of us only hide our actions when they are wrong.


How often do you see Christians on their knees out in the streets? Praying out in public? I don't think I've ever seen it....so, are they ashamed of it? Doing something wrong? How dare you say my faith and what I do is wrong! Who do you think you are? Are you a god? Do you have the authority, power to judge me? Do you lve by Christian rules? I bet you don't!



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by ivanglam


Anyways, witches are as real as toilet paper, except toilet paper serves a purpose

frankly yours.


Ok...The bible is book, written by man, put together by man, has been added to, taken away from, and torn apart by man. I am a human being. A good one I think. I am intelligent, compassionate, too kind hearted I don't drink, smoke, do any drugs, cheat or lie...I am however, too opinionated, stubborn and sometimes I can be insecure and secretive to a degree..., my mother, my grandmother, my great grandmother, all mush like myself...all were human beings...we are also Witches....there is a difference here between saying a book is not real and a person is not real.....that would be like saying Christians are not real......
It was an absurd and silly thing to say!


the bible is a DIVINELY inspired book. If people did not add tot he bible, christians wouldnt have too big of a book then would they? And for the record, i think witches are real. I have just to this point failed to see any proof. But saying that they are not is absurd.

frankly yours.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by deesw
Of course it makes sense. How often do you see witches practicing in broad daylight and where everyone can see them. It happens, but most of us only hide our actions when they are wrong.


How often do you see Christians on their knees out in the streets? Praying out in public? I don't think I've ever seen it....so, are they ashamed of it? Doing something wrong? How dare you say my faith and what I do is wrong! Who do you think you are? Are you a god? Do you have the authority, power to judge me? Do you lve by Christian rules? I bet you don't!


i agree, truth and corect religion aside, people do not folly ANy religion enough..... i cant immagine a world withought religion ... sorry john lennon.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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The bible has been changed and mistranslated so many time it isn't funny...it was put together by men and men choose which scrolls to use to make up the bible, leaving many scrolls out....you need to study up on this and learn.....reincarnation was in the bible at one time...do you fin it there now? No you don't, it was removed! It always amazes me when those that follow the faith don't even know their own history!


www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by LadyV
The bible has been changed and mistranslated so many time it isn't funny...it was put together by men and men choose which scrolls to use to make up the bible, leaving many scrolls out....you need to study up on this and learn.....reincarnation was in the bible at one time...do you fin it there now? No you don't, it was removed! It always amazes me when those that follow the faith don't even know their own history!


www.abovetopsecret.com...


parts are removed by popes and past opes and bishops based on thier credability and reliability.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:51 PM
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You have lost your mind to insinuate that the Bible, the inspired word of GOD was plagerized. Don't put crap like that on here.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by deesw
You have lost your mind to insinuate that the Bible, the inspired word of GOD was plagerized. Don't put crap like that on here.

I beg your pardon but you have no say so as to what gets put here! Yes, it's true...ya know, you do not have to believe anyone...you could actually try studying it yourself, opening your mind, and learning it for yourself...the history is there to read....you just have to research. I suggest you do so!



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