a reply to: artistpoet
Scientist dedicate life times to their passion some never find what they are searching for
Von Goethe described how science MUST be done if it is to make progress i.e. what has been called the intuitive way of knowing.
Sometimes, science shows how delusional we are; at other times, popular scientific views (neo-darwinism) prevent the emergence of the truth that all
organisms are coherently organized and 'quantum coherent' at the most fundamental level.
Quantum biology, for instance, is showing how utterly improbable even photosynthesis is without quantum mechanics making the whole system work.
Science is a 'bottom-up' approach to truth, whereas traditional spirituality - not everything, but the core which experiences a unity - would be
I think everyone should seek to bring both views into their understanding without becoming too consumed with either perspective i.e. material, or,
conversely, a fanciful idealism that depends upon non-empirical methods to make their claims.
This isn't to say that either Indian philosophies or Kabbalistic ideas aren't true, just that we shouldn't 'jump to the end', make claims that appear
incoherent to others, and so, unconsciously project our own needs onto Others
Who would deny that making assertions feels good? Sometimes, I find that those most guilty of this bias are those people most convinced about how
I believe we will ultimately find and discover deep relations between mind and matter, but I think it's prideful and not particularly conducive for
conversation and cooperation to make claims without the empirical evidence to back it up.
This, I find, is what the Dalai Lama understands. In one of his earliest books about science and mysticism with the philosopher Fransciso Varela, he
made "wild" claims about Buddhist monks who would fly around their monestaries - insisting that this was true.
He no longer makes these claims, not because he doesn't believe it, but because it is not relevant to the state of our present human
If we just relax ourselves, and not feel the need to persuade people of something that we and our intellectual history can "make coherent", we'll find
ourselves more able to push our specie forward, based, as it is, on the simple reality that we evolved around one another, and thus are fundamentally
tied into one another.
So lets keep developing the 'bottom-up' theory upwards (science), even as those people more awakened to the significance of consciousness understand
that there is 'top-down' perspective as well, contained in the spiritual traditions of all the great religions (kabbalah, gnosticism, sufism, vedanta,