Who does Gary Johnson hurt more? Trump or Hillary?

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: Phage

I don't see what the problem is.

The only difference between GJ's policy and the current immigration policy is that he is for no quotas and for work visas with SS numbers.

How is that extreme?

And that's why 3rd party candidates simply don't get supported. You don't see what the problem is.

a reply to: Vector99

What is the current policy on work visas?

a reply to: Vector99

What problem are you talking about?

Congress isn't controlling spending.
The right to bare arm shall not be infringed.
Executive orders used to bypassing congress.
Reckless use of drones killing innocent people.
More wars.
Failed war on drugs.
Militarizing the police.
Biggest prison population in the world.
Prison sweat shop labor.
One of the highest corporate taxes in the world.

a reply to: Phage

I just showed you he's for work visas with SS numbers and removing quotas.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

And I just showed you he is for unrestricted borders.

Come on in. We'll sort it out later.

Quite, quite different from current policy and law.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Johnson could alter voter demographics by pinching voters from the GOP and democractic camps. If this occurs I think it will reflect how today many voters don't join a political party. Now the waters would really become muddled if the anti establishment wing of Sanders supporters voted for Trump. My hope is the 2 main parties will no longer be able to take voters for granted.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: Vector99

What is the current policy on work visas?

Work and then go home?

a reply to: Phage

Why do you want to restrict immigration?

a reply to: Vector99

They can apply for citizenship if they want to stay past their visa expiration date. With no quotas they (and their families) would get citizenship.

Why deport them if they want to stay, are following laws, and paying taxes?

Why restrict immigration?

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Oh my.

Congress isn't controlling spending.

Yes they are

Executive orders used to bypassing congress.

Executive orders don't work that way

Are the rest really talking points for Johnson? He's another "politician" who instead of campaigning his actual platform is choosing to go the route of don't vote R or D, because of the devil.

This election cycle is the literal epitome of herp derp.

We have 2 quite incompetent mainstream candidates, and we have 2 non mainstream candidates. One got herself arrested by spray-painting a bulldozer, the other cannot show up sober to a single interview...but he climbs mountains and shlt.

There is no choice as usual that will benefit America as a country in general, just a bunch of asses saying they will blah blah so they can raise their speaking fees in the future.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: Vector99

They can apply for citizenship if they want to stay past their visa expiration date. With no quotas they (and their families) would get citizenship.

Why deport them if they want to stay, are following laws, and paying taxes?

Why restrict immigration?

Because that is fantasy land, not reality.

They DON'T want to stay
They DON'T want to pay taxes

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
Who does Gary Johnson hurt more? Trump or Hillary?

Neither.

Gary Johnson hurts Gary Johnson more than anyone else.

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
Who does Gary Johnson hurt more? Trump or Hillary?

Gary Johnson hurts Gary Johnson more than anyone else.

He hurts legitimate 3rd party candidates/organizations the most.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: Phage

Why do you want to restrict immigration?

Straw man? That is unbecoming of a Libertarian. As is disregarding what has been quite clearly stated.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Oh my.

Congress isn't controlling spending.

Yes they are
So the almost $20 trillion debt is because of who?

Executive orders used to bypassing congress.

Executive orders don't work that way

What if congress does nothing about the executive orders?

Are the rest really talking points for Johnson? He's another "politician" who instead of campaigning his actual platform is choosing to go the route of don't vote R or D, because of the devil.

A lot of people can't stand Trump or Clinton. That is a good strategy.

This election cycle is the literal epitome of herp derp.

We have 2 quite incompetent mainstream candidates, and we have 2 non mainstream candidates. One got herself arrested by spray-painting a bulldozer, the other cannot show up sober to a single interview...but he climbs mountains and shlt.
Can you climb Mount Everest? Are you going to vote for one of the two war mongers?
There is no choice as usual that will benefit America as a country in general, just a bunch of asses saying they will blah blah so they can raise their speaking fees in the future.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
Who does Gary Johnson hurt more? Trump or Hillary?

Gary Johnson hurts Gary Johnson more than anyone else.

He hurts legitimate 3rd party candidates/organizations the most.

But where are these legitimate 3rd party candidates? Johnson and Stein are the only real 3rd party candidates running, and both of them are completely useless.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Ok lets break down your reply.

20 trillion in debt? To whom? You do realize most US debt is actually in the form of us owing ourselves money right? Of course not, you are a Johnson supporter.

Congress doing something about an executive order? Well that would involve an executive order actually having legal recourse, but they don't.

Can I climb Mount Everest? Not even close. How the hell does climbing a mountain qualify an individual for president? Oh that's right, it doesn't.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Ok lets break down your reply.

20 trillion in debt? To whom? You do realize most US debt is actually in the form of us owing ourselves money right? Of course not, you are a Johnson supporter.
It is the responsibility of the congress to control spending. They have the purse. The president presents his budget to who? The debt ceiling is raised by who?
Congress doing something about an executive order? Well that would involve an executive order actually having legal recourse, but they don't.

Can I climb Mount Everest? Not even close. How the hell does climbing a mountain qualify an individual for president? Oh that's right, it doesn't.
He has the most government executive experience of any of the candidates. Governor of a state is the highest position in the executive branch of a state. President is the highest position in the executive branch of the federal government.
Gary also ran two businesses. A construction company and a marijuana company.
Trump is a real estate developer. Hillary was a senator and a secretary of state. Hillary has the least executive experience. Trump has the most executive business experience. Gary has the most government executive experience. Hillary has nothing to show that she can run the executive branch of the US federal government. Trump can make a case that he can. Gary can make a better case than Trump that he can.

Gary climbed multiple mountains actually.