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‘Washington Post’ Confirms Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement

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posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 11:04 AM
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It doesn't really matter who started it.

It matters that it is a cheap political gimmick, and its concerning that so many are stupid enough to fall for such a gimmick, and have invested so much time and effort into trying to force it to be true, mostly out of prejudice and fear.




posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 11:11 AM
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There is no doubt that Hillary's campaign was involved in this before Trump ever mentioned it.
It started out as a question of Obama's religion and the smearing of the Muslim faith by the Clinton campaign who were hell bent on painting a picture of Obama the Muslim in order to reduce his votes. At the same time, they were investigating his birthplace.

It snowballed from there and Trump was leading the calls for proof, which he got in 2011 (although I am convinced the birth cert is forged).

Clinton is not clean on this issue, which makes her current position of 'outrage' rather pathetic. She did it too, she should own it. But then, as we know with Clinton, she always tries to blame other people.
edit on 17/9/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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More Trump lies and distortions by his lying followers who are being led straight to hell

Trump is allergic to truth.

Trump will be everything and more of the worst presidents we have ever had.

Trump will do a Watergate like Nixon, an Iran contra like Reagan, a Vietnam War like Johnson, and a Viagra fueled sex romp like Clinton.


The worst--Trump might start a civil war



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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I think this is the most telling witness account:


Obama and Clinton were both at Reagan National Airport on their way to Iowa for a [2007] debate, and the candidates met on the tarmac for what became a brief but heated conversation. Then-Obama personal aide Reggie Love witnessed the event and describes it in his new memoir: [Obama] very respectfully told her the apology was kind, but largely meaningless, given the emails it was rumored her camp had been sending out labeling him as a Muslim. Before he could finish his sentence, she exploded on Obama. In a matter of seconds, she went from composed to furious. It had not been Obama’s intention to upset her, but he wasn’t going to play the fool either.


Clinton was trying to paint Obama as a Muslim in order to scare Americans and Obama knew it. What she did was both underhand and also bigoted. She was hoping to undermine Obama by undermining the entire Muslim faith (not just radicals).

It puts her current holier than thou position into perspective.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell

More Trump lies and distortions by his lying followers who are being led straight to hell

Trump is allergic to truth.

Trump will be everything and more of the worst presidents we have ever had.

Trump will do a Watergate like Nixon, an Iran contra like Reagan, a Vietnam War like Johnson, and a Viagra fueled sex romp like Clinton.


The worst--Trump might start a civil war



Interestingly enough, given the candidates, one could also write:

"More Clinton lies and distortions by her lying followers who are being led straight to hell

Clinton is allergic to truth.

Clinton will be everything and more of the worst presidents we have ever had.

Clinton will do a Watergate like Nixon, an Iran contra like Reagan, a Vietnam War like Johnson, and Bill will do yet another Viagra fueled sex romp.

The worst--Clinton might start a civil war"

It is best to remember that politicians lie only when their lips are moving.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Totally and thoroughly debunked.


And Breitbart? Really?



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Too bad she never said it. LOL



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Bluntone22

Not all, that would be an unfair assumption but to deny that racism played a part in this would be ignorant. And yes, Trump was the leader of the Birther movement and indeed the KKK, white supremacist, follow his lead today.



People anyone would label deplorable.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust




What difference, at this point, does it make where Obama was born?

It doesn't, really. It never did. Because he was born in the US.

On the other hand, Trump's ongoing refusal to realize it (or admit it, until this morning). Why did he wait so long if it was he who made Obama provide his birth certificate (as he claims)? He seemed to think it was a very big deal, even after the birth certificate was released. He never managed to come out and say it was nonsense, until this morning. Or was that just politics? Is he just another politician? Doing what is expedient?



Whoosh.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

Too bad she never said it. LOL


But Factcheck.org says her supporters pushed it in 2008. They should be added to the basket of deplorables.



It is certainly interesting, and perhaps historically and politically relevant, that “birther” advocacy may have originated with supporters of Hillary Clinton — especially since many view it as an exclusively right-wing movement. But whether those theories were advocated by Clinton and/or her campaign or simply by Clinton “supporters” is an important distinction.

www.factcheck.org...



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Nope. Not a shred of truth in what you said.
Totally debunked.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another...



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

Too bad she never said it. LOL


So she has so little control over her main campaign apparatus that they can do and say whatever they like without her express knowledge or approval?

And we want to elect her as president again why?



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

It has been good comedy to watch the left press trying to pin the tail with this. Oh the outrage demonstrated.

This is simply an effort to muddy the water of Trump success among black americans of late.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko




And we want to elect her as president again why?

What? She was already President?
Am I a victim of the Mandela effect?

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posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Again, I was a Hillary supporter, in 2008, and a self-professed birther from the get-go.

It is fair to say that Hillary supporters began talking about and investigating Obama's citizenship (& later his short form birth certificate) at blogs like TexasDarlin & NoQuarter, beginning in the spring of 2008.

I do not recall Hillary, herself, raising these issues.

However, the Obama campaign did accuse Hillary of stoking rumors by floating a photo of Obama in traditional Kenyan dress, on the internet.

Also, I recall this comment from Bill Clinton which got Hillary supporters all riled up on the issue of his eligibility. From August 4, 2008:


"I never was mad at Sen. Obama," the former president said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition."

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Obviously, he wasn't referring to Obama's age. Little wonder that people read into the comment considering the controversy that was already underway at the time.

These are the relevant facts, that I can recall, about any involvement by the Hillary campaign in creating the 'birther' movement.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: Phage

And we want to elect her as president, again, why?

Do the commas help?



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Yes. Thanks.
Why do you want to elect her as President?

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posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Oh, sorry, I also forgot the /sarc tag.



posted on Sep, 17 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: Swills

I hate Trump. But I do remember Clinton or her minions floating this in 2008. Coded language, dog whistles. The knife cuts both ways...


Yeah, it's like they forget we were actually around back then.

You know.... alive and stuff.

A lot of us were actually paying attention too!



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