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1st - you just agreed with the very statement you called a crock. It is not the cop's place to diagnose. It is the cop's job to protect the public, and that means from armed people who are presenting a threat.
2nd - If you are holding a gun in your had and start flicking your wrist where the gun points towards people, then you are a threat . . .
... there is no interpretation involved.
The gun being unloaded is NOT evidence unless he walked over and showed the cop it was unloaded before anything else happens.
If you and your family are walking down the street and someone pulls a gun on you, are you going to assume that it's unloaded or loaded? (Clear and present danger).
3rd - Yes, you understand the concept: we all have the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness . . . UNLESS we infringe upon others' rights to same.
By waving the gun around, this man was threatening others' lives. He obviously had the intent to get the cops to shoot him. Guess what, they did.
4th - Yes the vast majority of cops are good people and good cops. In any given profession there is around 3% whom are "bad apples", that statistic drops in LE. But had this cop did what he did and the suspect walked away and shot someone else, you would all be criticizing the cop for not doing his job and calling him one of the bad cops.
5th - Shooting someone who is waving a gun around is not murdering in cold blood as you put it.
If said person does not want to be shot, they can put down their weapon.
But again we come back to the fact that this man wanted to die.
So, obviously you do not stand behind a cop who also would like to enjoy the right to live.
originally posted by: JDeLattre89
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Apparently this is where the disconnect is .....the cop was not a liability to everyone around him he was a liability to his colleagues, he was not a liability however to the people that he took an oath to protect and serve...so one could argue he was "for the people" I realize you will not accept it but the shoot first and ask questions later scenario is what will lead to an all out war between the people and the police....that scenario is not very desirable for either party....
They attempted to talk him down, his response was to attempt to get the officer to shoot him. If he wanted to live he could have disarmed himself.
One attorney told him the best he could hope for was to ask to resign instead of being terminated.
“But I told [the attorney] ‘Look, I don’t want to admit guilt. I’ll take the termination instead of the resignation because I didn’t do anything wrong,’ ” Mr. Mader said. “To resign and admit I did something wrong here would have ate at me. I think I’m right in what I did. I’ll take it to the grave.”