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Mainstream Islam Is The Antithesis Of Western Liberal Values (BY THE NUMBERS)

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posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Here is a strong indicator that the Obama Administration’s crusade to appease Islam has gone too far; a new U.S. military handbook for troops deployed to the Middle East orders soldiers not to make derogatory comments about the Taliban or criticize pedophilia, among other outrageous things. It gets better; the new manual, which is around 75 pages, suggests that Western ignorance of Afghan culture— not Taliban infiltration—is responsible for the increase in deadly attacks by Afghan soldiers against the coalition forces. ... The draft leaked to the newspaper offers a list of “taboo conversation topics” that soldiers should avoid, including “making derogatory comments about the Taliban,” “advocating women’s rights,” “any criticism of pedophilia,” “directing any criticism towards Afghans,” “mentioning homosexuality and homosexual conduct” or “anything related to Islam.”

please...tell me this isnt true.

Its made up...right ?

like CGI and stuff.


Yeah, I know, it bedazzled my WTF Gland too!
edit on 19-9-2016 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It's stuff like that that really makes me board the crazy train. John J. Rambo style.

I once thought of myself as sort off...liberal...for the lack of a better word.

These days the word makes me sick.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Go to a majority Muslim country. Tell everyone that you're a gay atheist, attempt to date members of the same sex. Capture everything on video. I'm legitimately curious as to what the results would be.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
I've had this exact discussion with many people.

Islam/Radical Islam are not separate and should not be considered so.

The inculcated ideology of Islam is followed by a majority religious conservative bloc. The VAST majority of Muslims may not be terrorists, but the VAST majority of Muslims hold beliefs that enable terrorism. Either passively or actively, both of which are evident, most Muslims support the kind of ideology that brings about groups like ISIS.

So what does Islam need? Either reformation, or extinction. There is no in-between.

I have never been in the military but I have worked with many people that have been. The consensus of these experienced with Islam, especially overseas is that Muslims for the most part hold the same values. Those that would die for those values become terrorists, those who want nothing to do with those values must escape and everyone else supports or accepts these values but not to the level of committing terrorism themselves.

From what I have seen and heard directly from those who know Islam best is that there is no non-radical Islam.



posted on Sep, 19 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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I tend to think binary. True or false, bad or good, one or zero....... islam and things islamic do not ever get a capital letter. More so than most religions, this one needs to go byebye.
Where ever islam goes....tears soon follow.

I went as far to write a song...... I'm and Infidel (and proud)


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posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: projectvxn

I guess we should do the same with Christians too. Oh, and Jews. Don't forget the Catholics.

You can view all religions as a terrorist group if you judge based on the extremists and their texts.


When is this logical fallacy going to stop being used?

When stupid people stop painting the whole religion for the actions of a few.


Except as explained several times, they are enabled by the majority as they hold the same beliefs.


You seem to know the beliefs of muslims better than the muslims themselves.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: logical7

I know quite a few Muslims. Many of whom are in danger because they support things like education for girls. They are not the majority. They are often ostracized and many times killed.

There's a feature that allows you to view all of a member's posts within the thread.

Read my posts in context.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: logical7

I know quite a few Muslims. Many of whom are in danger because they support things like education for girls. They are not the majority. They are often ostracized and many times killed.

There's a feature that allows you to view all of a member's posts within the thread.

Read my posts in context.



The statement you made kind of summarizes your posts.

You say that only a minority of muslims support education for girls!!

Lets see, I think you also believe that majority of Muslim population of the world lives in Afghanistan and that too in Taliban controlled territory!!!



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I don't get how belief of majority Muslims in One God, Afterlife, justice, compassion which are the basic teachings of Islam lead a small group of people to terrorism.

Terrorism is basically an outcome of the political situation in that place.

I do agree with you that the Islamic way of life is very different that your western way of life.
You think and function like an animal who accidentally got intelligence and will one day die and be done.
I on the other hand think that I will continue on and my final place depends on how I treat the other creations that my Creator places in my path.



posted on Sep, 21 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss




UK: Britain has 85 sharia courts

a lie.



posted on Sep, 23 2016 @ 01:16 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Before we begin please note that back during the Bush era I was allied with the Democrat's in staunch opposition to the Republican's and their Neocon leadership with their imperialistic war agenda in the Middle East. Back then they had that buzzword "Islamofascists" they used to push their agenda. I personally found the word itself annoying, and their use of it diabolical. Outside of Afghanistan we had no business in attacking Iraq, threatening Iran, or having all of those bases over there to piss off the Islamic World (which WAS the motivation of the 9/11] hijackers).

Today we have this flip side reality where the new daily buzzword is "Islamophobia", which I have the same exact kind of feelings over as when the Neocon's had theirs in the daily discourse. To me, what the Islamicist's want to do over there in their world has never really been my business, but now that they're erupting across the planet, while showing marginal signs of any intentions on assimilating into the societies they're immigrating into. Now that I've seen both sides of this thing and all the data, I now have to take a clear a clearly "deplorable" position with this front.

As we shall see, the Neocon's actually had it right with their annoying Islamofascist term that is. While the Democrat's are just crazy in both blindly and rabidly defending their culture, while having an overarching agenda to import it into the Western World.


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I feel exactly the same, I used to align more with democrat causes, but it seems rather than me changing, my values have remained the same and the democratic party has simply shifted to the extreme left, straight into wacky town. No one can do any wrong with this new extreme left party. Literally everything is ok, morality is relative......

I'm personally still a fiscal conservative, social liberal (well at least how it was defined 2decades ago), humanist, objectivist, atheist. I simply dont take sh!t from other people or cultures anymore. Threaten my existence, well F-U.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So how many Americas does it take to veto God's laws?


edit on 24-9-2016 by fatkid because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 05:37 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: projectvxn

I guess we should do the same with Christians too. Oh, and Jews. Don't forget the Catholics.

You can view all religions as a terrorist group if you judge based on the extremists and their texts.


When is this logical fallacy going to stop being used?

When stupid people stop painting the whole religion for the actions of a few.


Except as explained several times, they are enabled by the majority as they hold the same beliefs.

Anyone that thinks those polls speaks for all Muslims is an idiot. A few thousand people speaks for one and a half billion yeah right.



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