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Trump's Birther Statement - Mandela Effect?

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posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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Trump and his stream-of-consciousness mouth and lack of fact-checking relies on his perceived social capital to change the world's view of what the says and what he believes - and without any strong media flap of "man, what a LIAR and FRAUD the guy is!" following him around.

The latest salvo, which makes him sound like a victim of another universe, was reported on by ABC news.

(NOTE; 'Mandela Effect was not mentioned in the article - and I don't believe it exists. I am, however, using the concept in a satirical sense.)

So let's look at the basis of the announcement as reported by ABC news: Source Article

The candidate's promise to address the issue directly comes after his campaign on Thursday night issued a statement asserting that Trump "believes" Obama was born in the U.S.


This is a real switcheroo. NBC news and other sources confirm this.

Where it goes totally "mandela effect" is in his statements of how the whole thing came about, announced in a message the day before...


And in a bizarre twist, the statement said Trump took credit for "compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate" and putting an end to an "issue that Hillary Clinton and her team first raised."

"Having successfully obtained President Obama’s birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States," the statement read.


I'm sure all of you remember the ongoing flap... that wouldn't die. Trump's name never came up and he was still chanting birther statements long after the birth certificate came up (in fact, he was a birther through 2015.) And it wasn't Clinton that raised the issue. In fact, AFTER it was raised they investigated and said "nope. He's an American citizen."

(multiple sources, including news stories from 2008. Here's a concise summary)

Oh... the "big announcement about this was actually, apparently to get people to come to hear about something else. NBC reports


"President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period," Trump said at the event at his new hotel in Washington, D.C. "Now we all want to get back to making America strong and great again."

The Republican presidential candidate originally billed the event as a "major announcement," but it turned into an advertisement for his new hotel and an endorsement session by medal of honor recipients. Nearly thirty minutes into the event, he made his statement regarding Obama's birthplace then abruptly walking off stage, ignoring questions by the press.


So we're into the age of political campaigns as corporate ads, I guess or else large groups of people are constantly falling into different realities. More reason to consider voting for Gary Johnson over Trump. At least he seems to stay in the same reality.




posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:04 PM
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posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd
More reason to consider voting for Gary Johnson over Trump. At least he seems to stay in the same reality.


The reality in which Aleppo is a mysterious acronym.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

Gary Johnson is a bozo. So is Trump, just in a different light.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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End the Madness, vote for Pete . . . he only sells books.

Pete for Prez!



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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You do realize the whole "Birther movement" was started by the Hillary camp during the 2008 election right? Trump has simply questioned the official narrative.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: JDeLattre89

Lol I keep seeing your comments about this "Pete" guy. Who the hell is he??



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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Click the link in my siggy . . .

I started a campaign to elect Pete the Cat for president.

Pete for Prez!



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

Wasn't Donald Trump part of that camp?




posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980
You do realize the whole "Birther movement" was started by the Hillary camp during the 2008 election right? Trump has simply questioned the official narrative.

So birthers are admitting that they've been pushing Hillary's ideas this whole time, even after her 2008 campaign officially rejected the idea (as shown in the OP)? If you truly believe this argument, doesn't that make "birthers" Hillary shills?



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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So along wth blaming Russia for hacking the DNC and accusing Trump of being in league with Putin,

Hillary started the birther movement about Obama, too?

What a sore loser.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

So along wth blaming Russia for hacking the DNC and accusing Trump of being in league with Putin,

Hillary started the birther movement about Obama, too?

What a sore loser.


Remember, she and Obama also started ISIS too (HERE). And we weren't in Afghanistan until Obama sent us there.
The hits just keep coming.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

Gary Johnson has had actual success as governor of New Mexico. Trump has weaseled his way into politics by appealing to the lowest common denominator and making them his base, with every outrageous claim he has gotten more and more voters first by saying Obama was born in Kenya.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: FamCore

Gary Johnson has had actual success as governor of New Mexico. Trump has weaseled his way into politics by appealing to the lowest common denominator and making them his base, with every outrageous claim he has gotten more and more voters first by saying Obama was born in Kenya.



Apparently he has flipped flopped again......

www.cnn.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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Vote for Pedro, all of your wildest dreams will come true!

edit on 16-9-2016 by Staroth because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

I'm going to respectfully disagree with commentary as some people don't like being refered to as lowest common denominator..what are you some upper crust type thinks the poo smells of roses....what a bigot thing to say......,



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Staroth

Lmao..., good one mate.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz

 


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A star for your off topic post! What did you say, you dirty, dirty person. I bet it was very, very nasty Oooh, you savage. You were supposedly supposed to comment on Donald reported change. Now he doesn't want to say that Barry was born in Kenya.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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Well, I just watched the evening news and Trumps renege on birther-ism. So I logged onto ATS to see what all the loyalist faction had to say about it. See all their threads defending the turn-about. Now maybe I missed them all as I scrolled up and down the new and top topics of the day and son of a gun, this was the only thread addressing the issue.

So I opened your thread to see how all the birther's reacted to his statement and all I could find were a couple of statements pushing it off on Hillery and little else. Where are all the vehement birthers and Trump supporters?



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