originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
originally posted by: LABTECH767
I myself as I stated earlier believe in Christ so I also know if he drove out demon's then they do exist.
I will answer your other response once I look into it further however what you just wrote caught my eye.
Do you think that exorcism should be used as a healing practice today.
Or is the connection between healing and exorcising demons something I've misunderstood?
Ah now that is a contentious point and I am sure you know of allegations of a schizophrenia suffering young woman whom died during an exorcism
My belief is that if normal medicine fail's then what harm can it do, I do happen to believe that possession though is a very real phenomena and that
the intercession of more powerful being's or spirit's, angels of you like though not always can cure this particular malady however how do you tell
the difference between a neurological problem and a spiritual one as this is not by any mean's easy.
Faith, a person's own belief can be an extremely powerful thing as well and of course then you have the whole argument about placebo affect and
psychosomatic illness and cure.
My take on it is this, Possession is a very real phenomena but not one that is scientifically proven within the criteria of Atheist science, there
are however many doctor's and scientist's whom do practice there profession's and also believe in God from various religious point's of view so it has
to be pointed out that regardless of the balance of numbers Atheist science and medicin is not the general rule though in today's world from a western
perspective it does seem to be the most Common view point and a prevailing VIEW.
I do therefore Believe that Exorcism can sometime's work, even in cases of purely psychological imbalance as there is the whole "I believe I am
cured" placebo affect as well as the potential of real possessing entity's coming up against other stronger or more determined entity's whom are
intent upon driving them out of the being they are feeding on.
Proving it though, well while you can measure affect's upon the victim there is to my knowledge no reliable technology to provide any form of
analysis of the harmful entity's themselves and any evidence of that kind remain's at an extreme minimum and perhaps that is the way these being's
want it to remain, think about all the mental illness on the world and the perfect camouflage it provide's for a real possessing entity or demon.
It is easy to dismiss it as just so much hocus pocus and I wish it was but have reason to believe these entity's are real, that there may be many
type's ranging from Fragment's of entity's to actual malign entity's, possession is of course only one tactic and perhaps the most harmful.
Negative vortex vampire's are said to cause harm and feed off of negative energy, literally squeezing there victim's by causing strife, stress and
misfortune to befall them in a serial continuity in there live's, these are most associated by most christian exorcist's with generational curses or
lingering demonic presence intent upon harming family's using a so called generational curse as a justification which the christian exorcist's point
out is null and void by the blood paid by the Christ and no contract's (demonic curses etc) or covenant's may bind the soul's these entity's are
Essentially Exorcism can take many form's from a replacement spirit that drives the first one out and can in the long run be far worse (Pagan
excorcism's are one of these Generational curses etc) to actual angelic or divine intervention through faith in which the combined (gestalt) energy of
the faithfull drive's the demon out.
Gestalt both malign and benign are entity's that are made up of many spirit's, MALIGN once they merge the merged mind can litterally consume the
lesser (individual) spirit's within it. BENIGN they remain individual but bound by there common faith in GOD/JESUS and there unity make's them
stronger within this faith, perhaps far stronger than the Demonic gestalt which hungers for new soul's and eventually just become's a malign entity
with no true identity of it's own.