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Rice Admits Iraq Had Nothing To Do With Democracy, Blames Rummsfeld, Pentagon For Debacle

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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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Another revealing email being dribbled out through media sources from the hacked Colin Powell emails in stark contrast to the second round of the DNC's hacked emails which were dumped en masse.

Looks like BuzzFeed is going to parcel this out to maximize the scoop it shared with The Intercept.

Buzzfeed - Rice: If Rumsfeld, Pentagon Had Done Their Job, Iraq Might Have Turned Out Different


Powell initiated the 2015 exchange by emailing Rice, who was the national security adviser at the time of the Iraq invasion, with a link to Woodward’s comments.

“First, we didn’t invade Iraq to bring democracy — but once we overthrew Saddam, we had a view of what should follow,” Rice responded. “If Don and the Pentagon had done their job (after claiming the rights to lead post-war rebuilding—things might have turned out differently).”

“Don should just stop talking,” she added. “He puts his foot in his mouth every time.” Powell replied by seconding Rice’s critique, saying “the boys in the band were brain dead.”

“Doug and Paul claims they had a plan (turn Iraq and our Army over to Chalibi) and leave,” Powell wrote, appearing to reference Bush administration officials Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, and the late Iraqi politician Ahmed Chalabi, who died last year.

“43 knew what had to be done,” Powell continued, referring to President George W. Bush, “specifically rejected the Chalibi crowd and as you say the boys in the band were brain dead.”


Ouch. File the first bit under O for Obivous. What is significant in my opinion is that we're seeing their honest opinions concerning the debacle and who they hold most responsible from the administration. Also interesting is that it looks like maybe Bush 43 wasn't quite the feckless puppet both his detractors and apologists would have us believe.

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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Bush was why I became an unaffiliated voter.
HE is also a traitor.
BUT PRESIDENTIAL criminals aren't punished are they?
PROBABLY laws against it to accuse.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:26 PM
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Contrary to the bull#, Bush 43 is a genius.
And evil genius yes, but a genius nonetheless.


No one, and I mean no one we know of, could have played the unwitting dummy for 8 years straight convincingly despite his prestigious education at Yale(was it?)...



All this is, as you said though, obvious...
Democracy was probably an afterthought if we give the benefit of the doubt...


But oil and global control and partly Al Qaeda was the only real reasons for the invasion.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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Worth noting from yet another BuzzFeed piece, it doesn't seem Powell has anything nice to say about Cheney, his book, his hawkish buddies or Cheney's views of American global influence.


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell slammed his former Bush Administration colleague Dick Cheney in private emails seen by BuzzFeed News, saying about the former vice president’s book written with his daughter, Liz, “They are idiots and spent force peddling a book that ain’t going nowhere.”

The email, to Kenneth Duberstein — the former White House chief of staff to President Ronald Regan — was about the Cheneys’ September 2015 book, Exceptional: Why the World Needs a Powerful America.

In another email, Duberstein wrote to Powell, “See acknowledgement in Cheney’s new book. Scary.” Powell replied, “Scary and the usual suspects. Will pass without a trace with most Americans.”



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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Wow - Powell seems to be increasingly fed up for being the fall guy all this time; I hope his life insurance policy is up to date.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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This is why Bush and Cheney wiped the White House email server.

This is why I am so disgusted with Clinton for keeping hers private and hidden from FOIA.

This is what happens with lack of accountability and transparency.

At least their house of cards are beginning to fall. Should the public wake the F*** up, we may be on the road to accountability in the future.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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Goes to show the mindset of the American electorate. They will buy and support BS if you package it nicely all wrapped up in red white and blue ribbon. It also shows the power of the media to market said BS.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 02:41 PM
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Funny how there is nothing incriminating or scandalous about Powell himself in this release.

I am starting to think Poweel deliberately leaked these emails himself.

It is always good to get more proof that the wealthy ruling elite at the highest levels are all on the same team and run in the same social circles. They have their small petty differences but always put on a united public front to achieve their ultimate globalist agenda.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I thought the Russians ,trump and the right wing was responsible for all these email leaks?

Finally we are getting some transparency.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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These emails from 2015 are a good human interest read. Nothing new. Back when all this was happening, if you voiced any questions or opposition, you were labeled unpatriotic and anti-American. It quickly became obvious who was in charge, calling the shots, Cheney and Rumsfeld in the Pentagon.

Even as early as 2004, Paul Krugman wrote about the Pentagon's Coalition Provisional Authority aim in Iraq


Let's say the obvious. By making Iraq a playground for right-wing economic theorists, an employment agency for friends and family, and a source of lucrative contracts for corporate donors, the administration did terrorist recruiters a very big favor.


Chalabi was Cheney's pet, but by the time of Bush's 2004 re-election campaign was seen as someone who needed to be set aside.

We didn't need "transparency" then, as the smell of BS was already overwhelming. Besides, being open and honest with the public doesn't always make people believe or want what you're telling them; just ask Jimmy Carter.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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I thought the Russians ,trump and the right wing was responsible for all these email leaks?


I don't know that the right-wing or Trump were implicated but the Russians have certainly been and the ostensible reasoning is that they're trying to influence the outcome of the election in favor of Trump.

They may or may not be involved. Powell's opinion of Trump may or may not have any affect on GOP voters' support for Donald Trump. The leaks are certainly going to lead to some awkwardness for Powell in any gatherings that include Trump, Rummsfeld or Cheney considering.

Who knows what the angle is? Maybe there is none? Maybe the Russians aren't involved? Maybe they calculated that the releases would have a greater negative impact on Clinton? Maybe they have it in for Powell? Maybe they were afraid that Powell would endorse Clinton?

It's wide open to speculation.
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