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reply posted on 21-6-2003 @ 06:06 PM by Leveller
Originally posted by ultra_phoenix


AV, when you know what the peoples are reading, you know what they have in their minds.

It's a commies-nazis behaviour. If you don't understand it, it's pretty sad.


Books are very powerful. The Bible and the Koran are books. So were Mien Kampf and Das Kapital. Books can be dangerous in some hands. But we should all have the right to read what we want if we are able to interpret them without causing harm to others.

So I can see where you're coming from but I don't entirely agree with you.
The reason they can't read your mind is that you use your own imagination when reading a book.

For example, in the last couple of weeks, I've bought 3 new copies of books that I have read in the past - 1984, A Clockwork Orange and Brave New World.

You could say that these are all political books and I need keeping an eye on. But the problem doesn't take into account my opinion. I can form a totally different view about a book than somebody else. I might read the political doctrines within them, but nobody can tell if I agree or disagree with them.
That's the beauty of a book - it let's you use your imagination.

The only worry is for those who tend to have reading tastes verging on the irresponsible. If you order a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook, maybe you do need looking at. After all, this is nothing more than a technical book on how to make weapons. Why would anyone want that? You could say it's just gathering knowledge but in my opinion, if that is the case you should be smart enough to know that you are taking a risk and that normal society would always wonder why you want a book like that anyway.

The Communist and Nazi attitude to books was loathesome, but there is a big difference between burning your books and just keeping an eye on what you read.

I don't see this as a major problem.
If you get a book like Anarchist Cookbook purely because you want to create weapons to harm others you are irresponsible anyway. You deserve to get caught.
But if you buy that book purely for knowledge, you are normally going to be the type of person who can rationally explain his innocence to any authority that questions you.

I will read what I want. Nobody can stop me unless they can physically stop me from reading them. If there ever is some sinister department that pays me a visit in the future, I will walk away smiling.


reply posted on 21-6-2003 @ 06:34 PM by dragonrider
The Communist and Nazi attitude to books was loathesome, but there is a big difference between burning your books and just keeping an eye on what you read. Posted by Leveller?

Are you so sure about that?

What you are missing here is that the cabal has gotten a bit more sophisticated than the Nazis of 50 years past. They are perfectly aware that to outright ban books that oppose thier political viewpoint would naturally cause considerable popular upheaval.

They have found that by simply tracking what people read or watch on TV (anyone ever read about the cable systems that log what you watch on your cable box?) they have a good idea of what your political apptitudes and your personal "threat profile" might be. This information is further used, same as the channel surfing information that is sold to advertising companies: the Cabal uses it as demographics information to figure where they need to plot and plant future propaganda to best influence the people.

The second reason for tracking ones use of books would be in order to slowly make certain books or subjects fall into popular disfavor through linking them to upcoming terrorism.

For example, after the ATF/Waco Massacre, much was made of the fact that copies of the "underground radical militia publication Shotgun News" was found in the compound. (Shotgun News is in fact a firearms trade/advertising publication, similar to Autotrader magazine. It is available for $3.99 at the magazine rack of most WalMarts and other book stores)
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