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How Trump Might Win (New York Times)

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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 03:22 AM
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Like a star-crossed baseball team trying to close out a pennant, Hillary Clinton holds an advantage in the race for president that feels real yet not at all reassuring — for her partisans or for Trump fearers worldwide. She just has to hang on seems like the dominant emotion among her backers, and for that matter among her staff, who handled her ground zero meltdown like a front office desperately trying to minimize the seriousness of a star pitcher’s injury. “Just a bruise … O.K., a muscle pull … we just took him out as a precautionary measure … he’ll make his next start … O.K., fine, he’s on the disabled list.”
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I like the baseball analogy. Hillary Clinton is like a team in first place in their division with a nice lead late in the season but on a losing streak. Clinton's recent collapse has made the election interesting for me again.

I think there's a decent chance Clinton could refuse to do any debates. I don't see any way that she'll come out of the debates looking good. If she refuses to take part, she'll look very weak. If she takes part and she can't handle 90 minutes straight of debating (does anyone think she can), she'll look worse.




posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 03:39 AM
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Then let's stay with the baseball analogy: If you don't show up in training and the elimination matches - you have no place in the finals.

Hope she steps back. The only way to keep face for the DNC. Even if they lose the election.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 03:46 AM
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All that talk about Trump dropping out of the race and out of the debates has been reduced to crickets. Some idiots were even bold enough to bet against Trump. Good luck with her "powering through" these debates since she can hardly stand on her own at times.
Maybe at the debates they can just place a cardboard cutout of Illary at the podium and she can just phone it in from home like the rest of her campaign.

edit on 14-9-2016 by Nucleardoom because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: svetlana84

I'm getting the feeling its all only ever been about getting her elected. I mean its not even about "being POTUS", just about ensuring she was the first women to "become POTUS". Once she has that claim, then whatever. Sure she'd prefer to be all 'in power', but health etc, she still has to be The One. If that's not maximum level dark narcissism I don't know what is. First Lady DEFINITELY wasn't good enough. Senator wasn't good enough. Secretary of State wasn't good enough. Would POTUS even be good enough? There's always GLOBALISM! Her narcissism is of the hollow and shallow variety: like someone addicted to buying all the latest gadgets, when new gadgets are always coming out they keep "needing" to buy the latest version that they already have 7 devices 'just like' it, but in a larger more Saul Alinsky kind of scale.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 04:27 AM
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IMO the article is just filling in space on a web page. If a state like Arizona is in play Trump is headed for a landslide defeat something akin to Goldwater in 1964 or funny enough even Mondale in 1984 suffered. Trump is beginning the process of destroying the GOP in order to save it.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 07:19 AM
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IMO the article is just filling in space on a web page.


Why is anything against Hillary seen that way, when if it was against Trump, it would be the Gospel from Jesus himself. Hillary and the DNC have been caught red handed, manipulating this entire election and all they try to do is throw blame on Russia.
She can't make it through a 10 minute speech, without coughing up a lung or stand for an hour on a nice day, because,
"She lost a shoe"
"She got over heated"...
..."Oh wait, she was dehydrated" ....
"Well....she has pneumonia"..........and she's had it for years, because that would explain all the other times she's gone down like a puppet with it's strings cut.
There is something seriously wrong with her and it's not just her psychopathic need for power.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: Nucleardoom

She will be well by then. And she will cream him in knowledge alone.
All he has in abundance is arrogance. Loser...
If they don't let him behave a jerk and make it about the world ocean his a goner. He doesn't even know Russia invade Ukraine??? Really?

The fool isn't getting this feather for his cap.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Right because her whole career hasn't been about service to others.

People who say what you did there obviously are only following the crowd and repeating what others have said about her. Because if you REALLY knew about her you couldn't possibly say that.
This tells me you don't know anything about her at all. The records are there... how about you read them. Find out something more about her besides emails emails emails .

There's a long record of giving and helping and putting the needs of others ahead of her own.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

What manipulation exactly was that again?
Her staff liking her more than Bernie and having a desire to see her win is not manipulation it's opinion and feelings.
Your serve...



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

[ volleys back across the net ]

www.huffingtonpost.com...



Leaked Emails Suggest DNC Was Conspiring Against Bernie Sanders



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 08:25 AM
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He is consistently getting stronger. A lot stronger across all the polls combined. He is also getting smarter. He said he wishes Hillary gets well and that was it. Her camp had no opportunity to play victim.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

I think Trump has not intention of winning. I think his real intention is to get "attention" and press for his new expensive hotel in DC. He's using the election to brand his name in politics because this will boost his popularity and boost his business into the stratosphere.

The danger is that what he's saying resonates with some people.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: lostbook

yah donnie is spending a year and a half of his life, millions of dollars, time and energy rallying, visiting foreign presidents, and opening himself up to harmful criticism... but hes just doing it to promote a hotel?

get em



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Do you say this with a straight face?

No real human could ever be this hopelessly naive. Who's paying you to say this?



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

Why post an article on "How Trump Might Win" and then not even discuss who the article states he might win?



First, Trump wants this to stay a four-way race. In national polling, his ceiling is close to Hillary’s floor — he peaks in the low 40s, she peaks close to 50 percent. This suggests that there are more true #NeverTrump than #NeverHillary voters, and that a section of voters (especially millennials) have rejected him pre-emptively but are still considering non-Clinton options. In which case not only Jill Stein but also probably Gary Johnson are likely to take more votes from Clinton than from Trump.
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Second, Trump needs to turn out a lot of people (working-class whites, in particular) who rarely or almost never vote. In the primary campaign, Trump didn’t usually outperform his polls, and there was little evidence of “Shy Trumpers” telling pollsters they were for Rubio or Cruz and then pulling the lever for Trump in secret.
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Which points to the third key to a Trump victory: He needs Clinton’s potential support to be depressed, which means he needs outside events to raise constant doubts about her leadership, and beyond that about the entire political establishment that she embodies.


Those are the three things Trump needs to even compete in the Electoral College.

With Jill Stein not being on the ballot in all 50 states, Trump is already at a disadvantage on the first point. The second point, like the article says...Trump supporters are not shy, there will not be people who usually don't vote turn out for him. Third, Trump is trying hard to make outside factors a key in this race...they just aren't getting any traction. Plus, the more he makes outside factors an issue for Hillary, his outside factors also bite him in the butt.

And it seems you forgot the most important part of the article.



No, it’s not likely.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:34 PM
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He's winning right now. Just flipped Fla and Ohio and this is going off of a a large body of polls not one poll.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: nobunaga
a reply to: lostbook

yah donnie is spending a year and a half of his life, millions of dollars, time and energy rallying, visiting foreign presidents, and opening himself up to harmful criticism... but hes just doing it to promote a hotel?

get em


Potential customers......



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 01:38 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

My dislike of Clinton doesn't override rational thinking. Outside of his core supporter base Trump has very little support. In the areas/demographics the GOP need to make up ground (younger voters being 1 example) Trump is like the Titanic. Trump's supporter base isn't larger enough to stand alone elect him. Logic would suggest a realistic path to a Trump victory doesn't exist.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 02:07 AM
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originally posted by: nobunaga
a reply to: lostbook

yah donnie is spending a year and a half of his life, millions of dollars, time and energy rallying, visiting foreign presidents, and opening himself up to harmful criticism... but hes just doing it to promote a hotel?

get em


When he already has more money then he can spend in a few life times.

Yeah makes sense...



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 02:30 AM
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originally posted by: xpert11
a reply to: DAVID64

My dislike of Clinton doesn't override rational thinking. Outside of his core supporter base Trump has very little support. In the areas/demographics the GOP need to make up ground (younger voters being 1 example) Trump is like the Titanic. Trump's supporter base isn't larger enough to stand alone elect him. Logic would suggest a realistic path to a Trump victory doesn't exist.


He has over 40% of independents, 40% of married women and 18% of black votes.

His core is growing.

As a matter of fact, I met two lifelong democrats, never voted outside their party in 50 years, both now Trump supporters.

You're very mistaken.



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