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IT Who Setup Clinton’s Private Email Server Skips Hearing Even with Subpoena

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posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:21 AM
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This is strange. So there were 3 employees total that were subpoenaed to appear before congress. Two of them appeared, who were from the company that held the servers, and pleaded the 5th. The last, was the IT guy for Clinton, Pagliano, and he didn't show up for the hearing even though Congress subpoenaed him to.

Where it gets interesting is that the Democrats argued that he would be opening himself up for criminal prosecution by testifying. Trey Gowdy (Republican) argued that he already had immunity.

HOWEVER, Paglianos council stated that the immunity deal was limited

So what has this guy so scared that he won't even show up when subpoenaed and just plead the fifth? The way the deal sounds, he only has immunity if he keeps his mouth shut. And if he doesn't he is open for prosecution and possibly:



The Hill


Democrats pushed back fiercely, arguing that the committee is unfairly expecting Pagliano to open himself up to criminal liability, thanks to an outstanding criminal referral from Chaffetz that asks the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia to investigate deletions from the server.

“What we have done is put him under threat of criminal prosecution,” argued Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.). “It puts him in jeopardy coming before this committee while that criminal referral is in existence. He’s an American citizen; I know the Constitution gets in the way of this committee sometimes.”

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) fired back, insisting that Pagliano had received immunity from prosecution. Lynch replied that the immunity deal was “limited,” according to Pagliano’s counsel.

“I want to read the agreement between the Department of Justice and this witness and whether that agreement requires this witness to cooperate with other entities of government — that is commonplace!” Gowdy shouted. “For them to say you can tell us the truth and not tell Congress makes no sense!”



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posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:27 AM
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What are the consequences for not showing up for him? Maybe he is in protective custody at this point because he worked out another deal to roll on Clinton and his company? Now that would be a spin!!!


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posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:27 AM
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Why do they need to plead the 5th and not show up if nothing happened illegally as Hillary claims?


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posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: ghostrager

Maybe he's already dead and they haven't found the body yet? That would be an acceptable reason to not show up, better a coroner's note than a doctor's note, right?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: ghostrager

hopefully there hasn't been some type of unfortunate "accident" that would prevent him from testifying



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:36 AM
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One guy is talking....


One witness, Justin Cooper, a former White House aide to President Bill Clinton, is answering the committee's questions. Chaffetz said Cooper purchased the first server used by Clinton and registered the clintonemail.com domain name. Cooper also helped set up Clinton's mobile communications.

Cooper told the committee that he did not have a security clearance during the period he was performing this work.


Witnesses Refuse to Testify in Hearing on Clinton's Email




posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: ghostrager

He's getting bad legal advice then. There is a known procedure to plead the 5th in a Congressional hearing, it's you have to show up and actually plead the 5th.

Not showing up will only get you a contempt charge.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: LanceCorvette

Exactly. My guess is he is being coached and is breaking under pressure during training sessions so they are holding him back until he can handle the pressure without cracking......or he's dead.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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Nothing to hide guys, the IT guy is just a basement dweller that finally offed himself by himself totally his own decision. Turns out he was gay or something that he was bullied for, and his greatest accomplishment was meeting the clintons.

Move along, nothing to see here


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posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:57 AM
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Clinton could have stayed in the back ground since she quit as SOS, managed her little foundation and became rich and powerful. But, she got greedy. She wants ultimate power and just could not resist trying to become POTUS. Now, instead of staying out of the public eye and enjoying all that money that would flow in to her hands, all her dirty little secrets are coming out and we are seeing the true Hillary. A lying, greedy, power hungry psychopath, who is so paranoid, she won't share any aspect of her life, with the very people who are supposed to trust her to lead a nation. Who is so use to lying, she doesn't realize when the truth would look much less suspect and not generate so much speculation.
Everything is: Hide, cover up, twist, deflect and then half truths at best when it comes out. If you think she is secretive now, wait and see what happens if she wins. Obama's administration will seem transparent in comparison.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: ghostrager

I should add that if one wants to challenge the *legality* of a subpoena, the procedure is to move to quash it in court (or in front of the tribunal that issued it).

Just ignoring it only compounds ones problems.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: ghostrager



Here's the video, if anyone's interested.

This is so frustrating.




edit on 13-9-2016 by rockintitz because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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I would imagine many might be worried by "immunity" assurances from the government. Sounds like his lawyer thinks he should be. Trust Congress? The average American's interest hasn't seemed to be high on their list in recent years.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Well, that is interesting Cooper showed up and is talking.

If he managed the first server, it seeems like this would
be the one with the Initial Clinton Foundation Stuff on it.

The sparks from the session yesterday were like fireworks,
not as good as Fourth of July, but I'll take it!





posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: ghostrager

Why assume he is scared of anything?



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: Orionx2

Hillary claims and the FBI agrees. Let's not get too far away from that ok?.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: LanceCorvette

Yeah. In court not in congressional hearings. It's contempt but not like court.
The rule was established to ensure that congress was not exposed to indignity, capricious charges, inturuption, rudeness or conspiracy theory that could waste their time.
Seems that Gowdy ,Chevetes, and DeLong are guilty of contempt of congress.
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posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: ghostrager

Because people like Trey Gowdy just want to prosecute someone. If he asks you to show up for questioning, the smart thing to do is to plead the 5th. Especially if you have a limited immunity deal, anything you say can and will be used against you. The smartest thing to do is to just be quiet and let Congress continue to run around like a bunch of headless chickens.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: Orionx2
Why do they need to plead the 5th and not show up if nothing happened illegally as Hillary claims?


Because if they could charge you, they would have already. The only thing questioning does, is give them something to charge you with. Whether that's tripping you up and making it look like you committed perjury, or finding some law you violated.

Silence is golden.



posted on Sep, 13 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

You know, it is really curious when people tout The Constitution
as a defense of Hillary anything, but trash Congress.

The disconnect is shocking....




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