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Did Paul Invent Christianity?

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posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Malocchio

The followers of Moloch believed their god was the one true god and as such would be considered to have a monotheistic religion. And that would be a truth in itself but not in the Eyes of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

basically Christians believe that Jesus is the embodiment of JHVH.

While ALLAH was the moon god until recently. About 200 years ago all the so called scholars agreed that Allah was just another language for god. But until then many in the middle east, southern Europe and northern Africa knew Allah as the moon god of the Arabs of Medina. Mohammed cleared the temple in Mecca circa 600 AD of all the other images of the Arab tribal gods and even destroyed the image of ALLAH, but still proclaimed that ALLAH was the most high. As what was believed by all the Arab tribes even before he cleared the temple in Mecca of all images.

Basically he forced all the Arab tribes to worship only ALLAH. I still have not seen his 800 winged angel that he said gave him the Quran. It wasn't Gabriel as he was said to look like a man. No wings.




posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Malocchio

The absolute greatest scam that has ever been perpetrated on the free man was to tell him that he was free from the Law (a law most were never subject to) of the old Covenant of a God they never worshipped in the first place in exchange for a "New Covenant" that preached obedience to the laws of human tyrants and slave masters and subservience of women.

Your rewards will be in the next life, suffering is good and martyrdom better.


I think the fact that free men voluntarily submit to the rules of Paul and their Church is sad.

There is no liberation in Christianity, from the Law or otherwise. If God does make Laws I don't think he would do it to change his mind later and encourage obedience to government.

What a beautiful scam!!!


Sigh....let it go with Chester, brother. You have done an incredible job of showing truth. Fundamental Christians are not going to see it, however, I believe there are many lurkers on here who will. You did good...you really did.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: Malocchio

originally posted by: JohnPrewett
To people with no Torah knowledge, and no love for Jews ....
Amid people who believe every conception of “God” one can imagine, a vagabond Jew named Paul of Tarsus proclaimed salvation in another Jew who had been rejected by Jewish leaders and crucified by a Roman governor. Salvation apart from Law-keeping.
That wandering Jewish tentmaker preacher [whose last address was a prison in Rome] was so influential, that 2000 years later many of his critics claim Paul is the real creator of "christianity." He [inspired by Jesus] changed the world. Why did many Gentiles believe him ?
Because he was confirmed with power. POWER. Paul changed the world. Paul is a MADE MAN.
Compared to Paul, his critics are ankle biting Chihuahuas.


Heh. That was genuinely hilarious.And of course no Pauline comment would be complete without the standard ''dare you disagree with my opinion you scoundrel" insult.At the same time entirely hypocritical as you wouldn't be saying what you are if you yourself had proper Torah knowledge.
You don't seem to realize even that the Torah is only the first 5 books of the Tanakh while you throw out the word as if it was equivalent to the Tanakh.
I don't think I have anything to worry about from the opinions of you, thanks for the chuckle though!



Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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I just read the most hilarious theory that involves the dark humor of the creators of the ''apostle" Paul and why they chose to name him Saul then Paul.

The inside joke is Paul hates circumcision so much because in Acts 13 1-9 Paul is attacked and castrated in revenge for Stephen.

Acts 13 1-2 has Paul with a member of the court of Herod (who he remains on good terms with i.e. Herodion).

The Holy Spirit orders Saul be "seperated" from Barnabas. Then they "lay hands on" him (and Barnabas but the joke doesn't involve him). Shortly after he became Pol or "little."

Before he was Saul of "a hundred goyim foreskins" fame. The OT King demanded this of King David.

The connection is both involved a bit more than just a (single or only the) foreskin and Saul the foreskin King became pol or Pol, tiny. The Romans had a twisted sense of humor.

The play on words is better in Greek and it becomes clearer in that words take on double meaning in it.

Here is where I literally just read about this as I don't even have time to concoct this but in light of the doc I just watched about the typology between Josephus and the Gospels or Titus and Jesus ''respective" "ministries" it makes sense.

caesarsmessiah

Normally I would balk at the theory but this guy actually deserves credit for what he has done and I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

I mean Paul was OBSESSED with circumcision calling it "the mutilation" even.

Now we know why he called a Jewish tradition that was done at 8 days without mutilating... the mutilation.

And why the Apostles were "the circumcision faction."

And why Paul had no wife and hated women. He was unable to please one having been a Eunuch.

This makes so much sense.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

I did let it go with Chester, that message wasn't even addressed to him and I told him I was through having a laugh at his expense (it feels mean after a while).

Thanks for the compliment and looking out though.

Had I sent that message to Chester you would be on the spot but he didn't factor in on that comments subject matter even if it looks so.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: JohnPrewett

originally posted by: Malocchio

originally posted by: JohnPrewett
To people with no Torah knowledge, and no love for Jews ....
Amid people who believe every conception of “God” one can imagine, a vagabond Jew named Paul of Tarsus proclaimed salvation in another Jew who had been rejected by Jewish leaders and crucified by a Roman governor. Salvation apart from Law-keeping.
That wandering Jewish tentmaker preacher [whose last address was a prison in Rome] was so influential, that 2000 years later many of his critics claim Paul is the real creator of "christianity." He [inspired by Jesus] changed the world. Why did many Gentiles believe him ?
Because he was confirmed with power. POWER. Paul changed the world. Paul is a MADE MAN.
Compared to Paul, his critics are ankle biting Chihuahuas.


Heh. That was genuinely hilarious.And of course no Pauline comment would be complete without the standard ''dare you disagree with my opinion you scoundrel" insult.At the same time entirely hypocritical as you wouldn't be saying what you are if you yourself had proper Torah knowledge.
You don't seem to realize even that the Torah is only the first 5 books of the Tanakh while you throw out the word as if it was equivalent to the Tanakh.
I don't think I have anything to worry about from the opinions of you, thanks for the chuckle though!



Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.



I just don't see what a person gains from recycling rhetoric that is so common as this type here.

Do you not understand I am intelligent enough to have already heard and thought about every word you just said?

Not that those quotes require any intelligence beyond average to comprehend and file away as "classic Christian 'Im in over my head' rhetoric" used anytime that devil logic shows his ugly head.

But that's the type of stuff you see in pamphlets that have hell on the next page with accompanying threat of damnation.


You aren't going to sell that hea.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: JohnPrewett

Did you know Paul was castrated?

A friend of the Herodians (Herodion)?

After all he has a freaking letter written to Titus and the odds of anyone not related to Vespasian or his son using that name are .00000000000001% that it might be a coincidence. I don't say he wrote to Titus, Paul is a literary device used by the Flavian dynasty of Vespasian and his son the Roman Christ Titus.

Clement of Rome was named Titus Flavius Clemens (third Pope after Peter and Simon).

Clement of Alexandria was named Titus Flavius Clemens of Alexandria.

Constantine was Flavius Constantinius.


Are you following?


I forgot Flavius Josephus the only historian whose work survives about that era.

The first historian to mention Jesus is an adopted Flavian and the first Roman Bishop was Flavius Clemens and their descendants Clement 2 and Constantine are two of the most important people in RCC history.

The RCC was the Imperial Cult of Caesar incognito.


Jesus says great stuff and is a great role model he just didn't actually exist and is a fictitious peaceful Titus who is Jewish.

Both believe that they are sons of God.
edit on 9-10-2016 by Malocchio because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: Malocchio
a reply to: JohnPrewett

Did you know Paul was castrated?

A friend of the Herodians (Herodion)?

After all he has a freaking letter written to Titus and the odds of anyone not related to Vespasian or his son using that name are .00000000000001% that it might be a coincidence. I don't say he wrote to Titus, Paul is a literary device used by the Flavian dynasty of Vespasian and his son the Roman Christ Titus.

Clement of Rome was named Titus Flavius Clemens (third Pope after Peter and Simon).

Clement of Alexandria was named Titus Flavius Clemens of Alexandria.

Constantine was Flavius Constantinius.


Are you following?


I am.



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: JohnPrewett

originally posted by: Malocchio

originally posted by: JohnPrewett
To people with no Torah knowledge, and no love for Jews ....
Amid people who believe every conception of “God” one can imagine, a vagabond Jew named Paul of Tarsus proclaimed salvation in another Jew who had been rejected by Jewish leaders and crucified by a Roman governor. Salvation apart from Law-keeping.
That wandering Jewish tentmaker preacher [whose last address was a prison in Rome] was so influential, that 2000 years later many of his critics claim Paul is the real creator of "christianity." He [inspired by Jesus] changed the world. Why did many Gentiles believe him ?
Because he was confirmed with power. POWER. Paul changed the world. Paul is a MADE MAN.
Compared to Paul, his critics are ankle biting Chihuahuas.


Heh. That was genuinely hilarious.And of course no Pauline comment would be complete without the standard ''dare you disagree with my opinion you scoundrel" insult.At the same time entirely hypocritical as you wouldn't be saying what you are if you yourself had proper Torah knowledge.
You don't seem to realize even that the Torah is only the first 5 books of the Tanakh while you throw out the word as if it was equivalent to the Tanakh.
I don't think I have anything to worry about from the opinions of you, thanks for the chuckle though!



Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.


So...question for you....if no one can stop sinning, unless they are "filled with the HS" ( according to Paul), then why would Jesus tell the woman caught in adultery, or a few others...to "stop sinning unless something worse happens to you)?
This was before He was crucified for our sins, by the way.
If you follow Paul's doctrine, that would be impossible for an " unsaved" person.
Any takers?



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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reply to: JohnPrewett

You would find so much peace in Islam if you weren't already full of hatred for it and actively calling it evil (another thread).

It's the truth and what the Jewish Nazarenes became rather than bow to Rome.

At least you wouldn't have to pretend that 3 Gods being 1 God but different and not different makes sense without feeling like stuttering.

You could say and actually be a Monotheist and still have Jesus too!!!
edit on 9-10-2016 by Malocchio because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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Now that I know Paul was "smooth" down there I understand his anger more.

Well that's what happens when you kill innocent men. Pol means tiny, in Aramaic it's deciever I mean this guy couldn't get a break.


He didn't deserve one either.

Or is it she? Maybe the clue means Pol was a woman writing as a man.



I have my own theory about who wrote the Gospel of John.

"The disciple (not Apostle) who Jesus loved is the clue.


Love is Philo in Greek as in Philo Judaeus of Alexandria the innovator of the Hebrew Logos philosophy.

Logos is translated to Word but means more than that.

Philo even calls the Logos the Son, Shepherd, High Priest in the manner of Melchizedek.

I think he wrote Hebrews too. He was of the Royal Court of Alexander in Alexandria and related to both Herod and Titus through marriage and was the eminent Jewish philosopher of the time and part time historian.

I am reading his books now. They are not a fast read. But many scholars believe Christianity got its theology from him.

I take it one further and I have a good supporting clue.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 03:24 AM
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originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor

originally posted by: JohnPrewett

originally posted by: Malocchio

originally posted by: JohnPrewett
To people with no Torah knowledge, and no love for Jews ....
Amid people who believe every conception of “God” one can imagine, a vagabond Jew named Paul of Tarsus proclaimed salvation in another Jew who had been rejected by Jewish leaders and crucified by a Roman governor. Salvation apart from Law-keeping.
That wandering Jewish tentmaker preacher [whose last address was a prison in Rome] was so influential, that 2000 years later many of his critics claim Paul is the real creator of "christianity." He [inspired by Jesus] changed the world. Why did many Gentiles believe him ?
Because he was confirmed with power. POWER. Paul changed the world. Paul is a MADE MAN.
Compared to Paul, his critics are ankle biting Chihuahuas.


Heh. That was genuinely hilarious.And of course no Pauline comment would be complete without the standard ''dare you disagree with my opinion you scoundrel" insult.At the same time entirely hypocritical as you wouldn't be saying what you are if you yourself had proper Torah knowledge.
You don't seem to realize even that the Torah is only the first 5 books of the Tanakh while you throw out the word as if it was equivalent to the Tanakh.
I don't think I have anything to worry about from the opinions of you, thanks for the chuckle though!

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.
Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”
Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.


So...question for you....if no one can stop sinning, unless they are "filled with the HS" ( according to Paul),
then why would Jesus tell the woman caught in adultery, or a few others...to "stop sinning unless something worse happens to you)?

This was before He was crucified for our sins, by the way.
If you follow Paul's doctrine, that would be impossible for an " unsaved" person.
Any takers?


The woman did not have to be "filled with the Holy Spirit" at that time to heed the good advice Jesus gave her [and not commit adultery again].


Consider: 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

SO,,,, God revealed significant truth to Peter BEFORE day of Pentecost. [also before Jesus rose from dead]



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: Malocchio

originally posted by: JohnPrewett

originally posted by: Malocchio

originally posted by: JohnPrewett
To people with no Torah knowledge, and no love for Jews ....
Amid people who believe every conception of “God” one can imagine, a vagabond Jew named Paul of Tarsus proclaimed salvation in another Jew who had been rejected by Jewish leaders and crucified by a Roman governor. Salvation apart from Law-keeping.
That wandering Jewish tentmaker preacher [whose last address was a prison in Rome] was so influential, that 2000 years later many of his critics claim Paul is the real creator of "christianity." He [inspired by Jesus] changed the world. Why did many Gentiles believe him ?
Because he was confirmed with power. POWER. Paul changed the world. Paul is a MADE MAN.
Compared to Paul, his critics are ankle biting Chihuahuas.


Heh. That was genuinely hilarious.And of course no Pauline comment would be complete without the standard ''dare you disagree with my opinion you scoundrel" insult.At the same time entirely hypocritical as you wouldn't be saying what you are if you yourself had proper Torah knowledge.
You don't seem to realize even that the Torah is only the first 5 books of the Tanakh while you throw out the word as if it was equivalent to the Tanakh.
I don't think I have anything to worry about from the opinions of you, thanks for the chuckle though!



Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”

Jesus said it. Paul believed it. The lost [Jew and Gentile] deny it.



I just don't see what a person gains from recycling rhetoric that is so common as this type here.

Do you not understand I am intelligent enough to have already heard and thought about every word you just said?

Not that those quotes require any intelligence beyond average to comprehend and file away as "classic Christian 'Im in over my head' rhetoric" used anytime that devil logic shows his ugly head.

But that's the type of stuff you see in pamphlets that have hell on the next page with accompanying threat of damnation.


You aren't going to sell that hea.


Scratch an anti-Paul, and find an anti-Christ. You dismiss the NT word of Jesus ....therefore, I have no interest in your opinions.

Have a nice day. JP



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 03:29 AM
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originally posted by: Malocchio
reply to: JohnPrewett

........................
At least you wouldn't have to pretend that 3 Gods being 1 .................


Trinitarianism is insidious.
Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,
but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God
[John 10:36] and endorsed being identified as the Son OF God. [Matt 16]

Christians contend Jesus is the Son OF God.
Trinitarians contend Jesus IS God.

See Matt 16 Peter's confession that Jesus endorsed.

Listen to following:
"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God." 1 John 4:15 ......

"...I [Jesus] said, I am the Son of God"” John 10:36


“And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ” John 17:3

“Jesus said …. go unto my brothers, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God” John 20:17

TRINITARIANS put a stumbling block in the way of the blind [Muslims and Jews].

Trinitarianism is insidious.

Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,

but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God.

By contending and demanding confession that Jesus IS God, TRINITARIANS have been putting stumbling block in front of Muslims and Jews since the state church of the Roman Empire was established on 27 February 380 with the Edict of Thessalonica, when Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene [TRINITARIAN] "Christianity" the Empire's sole authorized religion.

The Roman empire empowered the TRINITARIAN imitation "church" that the deceived world has thought the real Church ever since.

With the Edict of Milan of 313, Constantine I gave/established tolerance for Christianity, thus at this time Christians ceased being deemed enemies of the state.

The Trinitarian cult, imposed on the Roman empire in 380ad caused Christians to be persecuted as “heretics.”

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 03:49 AM
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Peace and love ! You must cling to your wife and not commit adultery , prostitute or divorce or lie down with man or be a sorcerer ! You cannot take this literally and if you do take this literally , you miss the hidden spiritual message ! One flesh = one soul ! A real sorcerer of the satans unconsciousness divides the minds and conquers the spiritual beings , to make mind slaves ! You must not prostitute , commit adultery or divorce your wives ( minds ) , because if you do you cannot enter the kingdom of god ( heaven ) and commune with the father ( enlightenment ) in your mind ! If you lie down with another man ( spiritual being , not physical body ) by giving your wife ( mind ) away , you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven ! All of us us selves ( spiritual beings , not physical bodies ) are referred to as masculine and our minds are referred to as feminine in real spiritual teachings ! Adam the self and eve the mind ! All literal teachings are heresies ! We are are all here to learn to love one another and live by the truth ! We are all here to be free spirits not slaves ! Take back your minds ( lives ) from the fake controllers of the world and become your own masters ! Peace and love from the mystical metal hippie

edit on 10-10-2016 by mysticalmetalhippie because: personal reasons



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: JohnPrewett

I don't think ''scratch an anti-Paul find an Antichrist" could be anything but desperation from a pro Paul person who even knows that to listen to or follow Paul is failing to listen to and follow Christ and the epitome of Antichrist.

You must have trouble with the presence of Paul mad rantings in the Bible and can't get past the FACT that men created Paul and inserted him into a story that he had no part of. Paul is not a prophet or Apostle of Christ.

He is the ''founder" of the most oppressive religion in history yet he doesn't get along with the True Apostles who were chosen by Jesus while he was alive.

His teachings are diametrically opposed to those of the Nazarenes who were a sect that followed him as a Prophet and not a God.

Paul was rejected by the 7 Churches in Asia and he got his revenge by selling out to the Romans and blasphemously calling a man God.

Something no Jew who knew him ever said and his teachings are uneducated ramblings about everything he hates and threats of damnation for the ''other Gospel" that was what Christ spoke and taught.

Do you think you are smart for failing the test of the false prophet and elevating a false prophet to a disciple and Apostle?

You are failing to see the obvious truth as obvious and nothing you said has been of any help to ''Paul." You are only saying what your personal opinion is and CHOOSING not to see the truth.

You know nothing about Jesus or Paul if you think that hyper loyalty to Jesus is actually anti Christian. I am not a Christian and Christianity is itself anti Jesus.

Yes a built in contradiction, Christianity itself being the Antichrist, I know it sounds complicated but it is not.

Nominally being Christian doesn't make a person a disciple of the Nazarene, but of Saul the eunuch called Paul (tiny, deciever). You have Christ in your religion being a Christian, true.

But by accepting Saul you are denying Christ and what he taught as has been established already the ''man" was a liar many times over and proud of it.

You might just be accusing those who are loyal to the Messiah of being against the Messiah because you yourself are pro Paul and antichrist. You are jealous that someone knows more about the situation than you do and it shows in comments like " scratch an anti-Paul find an antichrist", which is the same as saying:

"You know more than me and I can't take the time to see your perspective so I will call you the typical accusation from Christianity, that you are antichrist.''

If loyalty to the Messiah makes me antichrist than I am antichrist.

Only thing is I am not anti Paul. I don't think that calling a false prophet a false prophet is anti anything.

I am just too smart to not notice it, the Holy Spirit has revealed it to me through the New Testament (that Paul is the false prophet predicted in Matthew 24).

You might want to read it before arguing about its contents. You are way off.

Read the whole thing cover to cover. That's how I figured it out.



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: JohnPrewett

You actually said that Muslims and Jews are all blind?

Thanks, now I know that you have no knowledge.



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: JohnPrewett

originally posted by: Malocchio
reply to: JohnPrewett

........................
At least you wouldn't have to pretend that 3 Gods being 1 .................


Trinitarianism is insidious.
Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,
but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God
[John 10:36] and endorsed being identified as the Son OF God. [Matt 16]

Christians contend Jesus is the Son OF God.
Trinitarians contend Jesus IS God.

See Matt 16 Peter's confession that Jesus endorsed.

Listen to following:
"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God." 1 John 4:15 ......

"...I [Jesus] said, I am the Son of God"” John 10:36


“And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ” John 17:3

“Jesus said …. go unto my brothers, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God” John 20:17

TRINITARIANS put a stumbling block in the way of the blind [Muslims and Jews].

Trinitarianism is insidious.


Not half as bad as calling Judaism and Islam the "way of the blind."

It's textbook ignorance. You think it is wise to make errant claims that only show you lack knowledge?

That Islam and Judaism are both related to Christianity is beyond dispute. All religions have their good and bad elements but blindness is actually a pretty Christian way of looking at things.

It's not called Christianity and though the same God of Abraham is the God of all three you think insults make you pious when they don't make you anything but biggoted and over opinionated without any fact based reason.



Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,

but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God.

By contending and demanding confession that Jesus IS God, TRINITARIANS have been putting stumbling block in front of Muslims and Jews since the state church of the Roman Empire was established on 27 February 380 with the Edict of Thessalonica, when Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene [TRINITARIAN] "Christianity" the Empire's sole authorized religion.

The Roman empire empowered the TRINITARIAN imitation "church" that the deceived world has thought the real Church ever since.

With the Edict of Milan of 313, Constantine I gave/established tolerance for Christianity, thus at this time Christians ceased being deemed enemies of the state.

The Trinitarian cult, imposed on the Roman empire in 380ad caused Christians to be persecuted as “heretics.”

en.wikipedia.org...





Have fun hating everything that is not your religion and thinking hate is just fine.



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: Malocchio
a reply to: mysticalmetalhippie

The word of God says this and from some of the Apostles seeing you despise Paul's writings. Mind you Peter and Jude are speaking about today just as much in the past.

2Peter 2:1-2 ¶ But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Peter 2:10 ¶ But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.



How did the Lord Buy them?

Ac 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,


Paul's teaching lines up with the Apostles when it comes to the sacrificial blood of Christ.

Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:



posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Malocchio
a reply to: mysticalmetalhippie

The word of God says this and from some of the Apostles seeing you despise Paul's writings. Mind you Peter and Jude are speaking about today just as much in the past.

2Peter 2:1-2 ¶ But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Peter 2:10 ¶ But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.



How did the Lord Buy them?

Ac 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,


Paul's teaching lines up with the Apostles when it comes to the sacrificial blood of Christ.

Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:




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