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Deus-ex-Machine computer gonna save the world?

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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
Also we will be fine If we just get AI to run on windows...even If it does take over it will crash blue screen of death when it attempts to update.


You are fooling the whole world into a doomsday scenario! Windows!? NO UBUNTU LINUX RULES!!!




posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: Xenogears

Note that even were you to walk on water, heal the blind and raise the dead, even that is not evidence you are God. Even if you could prove you did all that, it wouldn't prove you God. This is the power of the eternal truth accessible to all.



AI will lack creativity, creativity is from a higher source, divinatoric, that can never be build into a machine



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: galien8

If we could teach it to empathize through it may develop a conscience.

Fact is it would probobly recoil in horror at the beast that is Humanity.
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: galien8

Depends how you define creativity, an AI may be able to perceive or conceptualize an almost infinite amount of different scenarios simultaneously before coming to any definitive conclusion. That capability should make thinking outside the box almost a by product.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

aint that a PREDATOR's helmet?



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:59 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: galien8

If we could teach it to empathize through it may develop a conscience.

Fact is it would probobly recoil in horror at the beast that is Humanity.


It should accept that mankind as a whole is dualistic, the AI computer should be dualistic in nature too, than it would have empathy for individuals and groups of humans



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: galien8

Depends how you define creativity, an AI may be able to perceive or conceptualize an almost infinite amount of different scenarios simultaneously before coming to any definitive conclusion. That capability should make thinking outside the box almost a by product.


Creativity comes from randomness (noise) in the human thought process, randomness in the world comes from the divine, God interacts with the world in randomness events, God (The Architect) can steer the world through for example the Heisenberg Uncertainty in the neurotransmitter / receptor site interactions



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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I wouldn't count on the Three Laws being of much help controlling super AI:

"That was the equation! Existence. Survival must cancel out programming."



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: galien8

What seems random to us might not seem quite so random to an intelligence that can distinguish the complex patterns in nature and mathematics our universe displays, after all "Out of chaos comes order". Keep in mind its thought process will probobly be rather alien to us just as ours will be to an AI.

God, at least from the organised religious perspective is nothing more than control construct.
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: swanne
Maybe we won't understand its reasoning, but its language will be the same than that of the programmer, no? In other words, the AI still reasons using the basic execution codes which composes it, so basically that's something the machine and us will have in common (since some of us can understand programming languages).

It might start out that way, but do you think our computer programming codes are the best possible? They might be the best we can come up with now, but what about a machine 10,000 times smarter than we are? Once a machine gets smart enough and starts coding on its own, it will likely invent newer, better codes that continuously shift and upgrade so fast that we won't have time to figure out one before its reprogrammed itself with another fresher set of codes -- including a tough set of security codes and lockouts to keep us mere mortals from tampering with it.

Once it gets past that point (which won't take long), it's going to be "thinking" in ways that we will just be incapable of comprehending. Our best hope is that it will progress so rapidly that it never really sees us as a viable threat or competitor for scarce resources, and it just flies off into space and leaves us alone.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: galien8
Creativity comes from randomness (noise) in the human thought process, randomness in the world comes from the divine, God interacts with the world in randomness events, God (The Architect) can steer the world through for example the Heisenberg Uncertainty in the neurotransmitter / receptor site interactions

"God" -- The Architect -- may already be a hyperconscious, transtemporal machine. If it was smart enough, creating a functional simulation of an uncertainty generator might be a piece of cake.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: galien8

My Avatar is actually power armor from Fallout 4.
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: kountzero

Engage Agent Smith's Virus monologue lol



vely vely funny, we make special Wonton soup for this dude



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: galien8

My Avatar is actually power armor from Fallout 4.
COOL



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

"God" -- The Architect -- may already be a hyperconscious, transtemporal machine. If it was smart enough, creating a functional simulation of an uncertainty generator might be a piece of cake.



do you know the difference between true entropy and pseudo entropy? If our universe runs on true entropy than we have free will, if our universe simulation is fed with pseudo entropy we only have the illusion of free will where in fact everything is predetermined
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: galien8
do you know the difference between true entropy and pseudo entropy? If our universe runs on true entropy than we have free will, if our universe simulation is fed with pseudo entropy we only have the illusion of free will where in fact everything is determined

Can you tell the difference? If not, is there a difference?



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: galien8

Freewill could quite possibly be an illusion of sorts. Give this short video a view if you have a moment, it raises all sorts of interesting questions regarding Freewill.




posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

Can you tell the difference? If not, is there a difference?



Quantum randomness by Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is the only source intrinsically random, like Beta decay of radioactive elements, that is called true randomness, true entropy source, all the other sources are pseudo random, which actually is a term used for pseudo random number generators:




posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: galien8

Freewill could quite possibly be an illusion of sorts. Give this short video a view if you have a moment, it raises all sorts of interesting questions regarding Freewill.



Nice video thanks! : OK but the freewill could still be in the subconsciousness which is part of psyche, can still be quantum phenomena in neurotransmitter / receptor interactions, then there is perhaps true randomness and consequently unpredictable thought jumps, where the subconsciousness makes each time a freewill decision about



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: galien8

Its all really speculation at this point considering we don't fully understand consciousness or even have the tools at our disposal to fully investigate the phenomenon.




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