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Hillary health 'conspiracy' goes 'mainstream'

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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I Beg to Differ Doc .


www.youtube.com...
edit on 12-9-2016 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:14 AM
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Will she be able to do the presidential debates?



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Probably , with two People on either side of her on the Podium Holding Her Up .



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: casaubon




If Clinton was being dragged into the car

Watch the video.
Her toes are dragging on the pavement.
She isn't walking.
If her aides/security weren't holding her up, what would you propose was holding her up?

Do you believe that she can levitate?



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: butcherguy

If that darn van hadn't pulled up, Hillary would still be standing there. How could she walk for many yards but couldn't take the next 3 steps? I smell a rat.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: casaubon

Watch the video.
Her toes are dragging on the pavement.
She isn't walking.
If her aides/security weren't holding her up, what would you propose was holding her up?

Do you believe that she can levitate?


Don't be daft. She was obviously being supported by the handlers at that particular moment - which is what you'd expect if a VIP fainted under close protection. There's no disagreement here.

The disagreement arises at the idea that she fell unconscious for longer than a moment or two and was therefore manhandled into the back of the car while she was still out for the count. That idea isn't supported by the video, or by anything else.

Just because she fainted briefly doesn't mean she stayed that way for longer than a couple of seconds.

Anyway, this isn't the JFK assassination and we're not discussing the Zapruder film. It's a pretty minor disagreement, all things considered. Interesting, though.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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The best indication that she's sick is the fact that she was diagnosed with pneumonia.




Spreads by airborne droplets (infecting others)

Honestly you think they let her wait around all that time and never knew she had pneumonia? Pneumonia KILLS especially elderly why would they drag her all over sick? Are you saying they didn't KNOW she was sick all that time or just that they did nothing? It is no shame to have pneumonia, they could have put her in the hospital and treated her and that would be the right thing to do right?
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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Re: Momentary fainting. I found this compliation video, which made me laugh out loud several times (I know, I'm a terrible person), but the main thing is that at approximately the 2'50" mark and the 3'30" mark, you can see two clear examples of momentary fainting.



In the first of these two examples, a TV interviewer keels over backwards - and snaps right out of it, picking up where she left off, only a couple of seconds later. In the second, some kid trying to sing on a TV show collapses and then snaps upright again (even though he goes down again a moment later, and this time for good).

(FWIW, I'm particularly surprised that no-one has ever suggested that the girl fainting behind Obama while he's making a healthcare speech was some kind of plant or actor, since it seems so incredibly well-timed and appropriate.)



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




So you misspoke when you claimed that Clinton had lied (again)?


No, her campaign and Hillary herself was deceptive. They tried to paint a picture like she was fine when they knew she had pneumonia (supposedly pneumonia anyways).

As for again, she has characteristic of a pathological liar . Like when she lied about being under sniper fire, which is not a little white lie nor what normal people do along with her numerous other issues.




All I heard from the campaign (and "the MSM") was that she had gotten overheated, then a few hours later they mentioned the pneumonia.


I guess you didn't see or are choosing to conveniently overlook the video of her hugging the little girl and pretending everything is fine , prior to mentioning her pneumonia.




Look, I don't care what your political affiliation is as long as you're dealing with the facts. Honestly.

Me too, and the fact is that Hillary and her campaign were deceptive on handling this issue .
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: butcherguy

It's been verified. CNN is reporting that other people who have been on the plane, and on the campaign trail with her, have the same thing. She caught a bug.

Trump hasn't released his medical record, by the way. Just some nonsense from that strange "doctor". He's also now saying he's released his "financial information", which is NOT the same as his tax returns, just like that weird statement from that "doctor" is not a medical record.





I don't understand, are you starting some "vast left wing conspiracy" against Trump's health? LOL, and I bet you think the right wing conspiracy is just awful. Isn't irony ironic.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: butcherguy

It's been verified. CNN is reporting that other people who have been on the plane, and on the campaign trail with her, have the same thing. She caught a bug.

Trump hasn't released his medical record, by the way. Just some nonsense from that strange "doctor". He's also now saying he's released his "financial information", which is NOT the same as his tax returns, just like that weird statement from that "doctor" is not a medical record.


Lets assume the Clinton camp is being totally honest about her being diagnosed with pneumonia Friday, and it obviously being contagious seeing as how many people with her have caught it.

Why in the world would they send her out with people to possibly infect others who had no idea they were at risk? This seems horribly unethical.

Heck, she even hugged that little girl after she left Chelsea's apartment. Are you really telling me that Hillary and her people knew yesterday that she had a contagious disease, and yet they still sent her out to be with people without letting those people know of the risk, and to top it off had her hug and possibly infect a small girl all for a photo op?

This would almost be worse than her being seriously ill. It would go to show her poor judgement, and her disregard for others in her attempt to get what she wants.





posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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Quote Clinton making a public statement that she didn't have pneumonia after Friday.

The campaign did what the campaign is supposed to do ... defend Clinton from the general stupidity of the press.

She got overheated, they made that statement. She felt better after cooling off and resting (and probably rehydrating) and they made that statement. Later in the day, the doctor made the statement and probably insisted on stating the presence of pneumonia, probably mostly for insurance reasons.

You can spin all that as you choose, but those are the facts.

You believed before Friday, before you found out that she has pneumonia, and probably for quite some time that Clinton is a pathological liar.

She's been on antibiotics and is very likely not contagious. The little girl wanted a hug. It was awkward. What does that have to do with screeching "SHEEE LIEEEED!!!"

You haven't pointed out a single deception on the part of the campaign or Clinton.

Let's do a counter example, eh? Let's say that Mr. Trump comes down with a case of colitus. Bug, a bad Big Mac, whatever.

Do you really believe that the public needs to know how many hours he spent on the toilet with violent diarrhea?

Would that be embarrassing for him? Do you think that the Trump Campaign would be "up front" and run to tell us that Trump had the runs?

/shrug

I'm really not sure that it's any of our business that Hillary had pneumonia anyway, but I have different ideas about privacy, even of politicians.
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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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Streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria, which causes most cases of pneumonia, is far less contagious than a cold or flu. This is because most people’s immune systems can kill the bacteria before they have the opportunity to cause an infection


NHS - UK



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: interupt42



She's been on antibiotics and is very likely not contagious. The little girl wanted a hug. It was awkward. What does that have to do with screeching "SHEEE LIEEEED!!!"



So lets assume she got antibiotics Friday when she was diagnosed. She would still be contagious for at least 24 hours. Yet she did speaking events and was in contact with members of the press and others, knowing that she was contagious, but not telling any of them the danger. Even if it was no ones business, shouldn't she at least have shielded other people from her when she knew she was contagious?

What if one of the people she came into contact with Saturday ends up getting seriously ill, and passes away or suffers long term effects? Why would Hillary put these people at risk?

This seems inexcusable to me.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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If she does not have Parkinson's Disease, I will be greatly surprised.
In my experience (I'm a year older than her.) what symptoms she has displayed (Particularly the uncontrolled motions and 'absences') are fully supportive of this speculation.
In this instant situation, she is reported to be having a heat stroke, as a hyperthermic event. The fact that the day was NOT excessively warm, that she wore her customary suit, that they did not introduce liquids, remove clothing and attempt to cool her as rapidly as possible and perform other mitigations (other than toss her into her vehicle) demonstrates either of TWO things.
One: She was NOT having a thermal problem but some other ailment.
TWO: Her staff, all of them, are incompetent to handle a relatively minor set of ameliorative treatments for a potentially devastating (heat stroke IS serious) ailment.
Most of us in an overall good health status, do not need physical assistance to keep upright under any normal circumstance. Since the total time for UNTREATED pneumonia is about two months, her symptoms have been exhibited for more than that time period and apparently are worsening. Considering the Hellary's (sic, I didn't say I like her.) primo status, I suspect she is getting top tier attentions.
Thus this is more fabrication than factual reporting, in my estimation, and it is just part of the continuum of BS these campaigns (I don't like the Trumpet either.) regularly exhibit.
Since I am STILL a Bernie Bro, I hope that she is patriotic enough to withdraw and let the MOST LIKED candidate become what we need, a Progressive leader.
We'll deal with the war crap later.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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Why assume anything? Are you a medical professional? I'm not. We can speculate and guess but that's not the facts.

"The danger." I posted an easily discovered source that points out how low the contagion rate of most causes of pneumonia are.

There's many more.

Beyond that fact, there's many vectors for pneumonia. Do you know what kind of pneumonia Clinton has? What precautions she took?

No?

What if what if what if.

Seems pretty safe to say you're playing the worst case scenario as if it is likely.

But, color me surprised that you don't approve of any action of Hillary Clinton.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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double post

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posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler



Streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria, which causes most cases of pneumonia, is far less contagious than a cold or flu. This is because most people’s immune systems can kill the bacteria before they have the opportunity to cause an infection


NHS - UK



Yet this particular illness has been highly infectious according to the Hillary campaign.


The illness that sickened Hillary Clinton with pneumonia and caused her to have to be escorted away from September 11 ceremonies in New York on Sunday also struck down several members of her campaign team at Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn, PEOPLE has learned.

"Everyone's been sick," a campaign source tells PEOPLE.

At the end of August, two weeks before Clinton was diagnosed with pneumonia, a debilitating bug was making the rounds among staff at her headquarters and campaign aides who travel with Clinton, a source tells PEOPLE.

At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook. Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment, the source says. One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton's diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER by ambulance after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration, the source said.


www.people.com...

So they knew that is was highly infectious, and yet still sent Hillary out to possibly infect people on Saturday without warning anyone.

Illnesses and medical history are private, and no one has the right to no anything about it (unless you are runnnig for President, but I will ignore that for a moment). However, when you find out that you are a risk to other people because you know you are infectious, you have a responsibility to let people that you are in contact with know that.

It is extremely unethical for the Hllary campaign to not let people know that they were at risk, at least until 24 hours of antibiotics. This means that everyone she had contact with Saturday was at risk. Surely you will condemn this silence when it put people at risk.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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You haven't pointed out a single deception on the part of the campaign or Clinton.


You are right I pointed out 3 and possible 4th that remains to be seen..

Deception 1: Her campaign and the MSM tried to spin her fall as a simple trip when clearly it was more.


Deception 2: Her campaign and the MSM tried to spin her fall as heat exhaustion.


Deception 3: Hillary, her campaign, and the MSM tried to spin her as being perfectly healthy after her heat exhaustion, by creating a PR video of her hugging a little girl.

The little girl has nothing todo with being contagious but rather a demonstration to what effort the Hillary campaign will go to deceive the public. They knew she had pneumonia but they try to play it off like she was perfectly healthy and not a thing wrong with her besides that little episode of heat exhaustion.

possible deception 4: Her campaign and the MSM saying she was diagnosed with pneumonia on the Friday she was campaigning , doing fund-raisers, and attending National Security meeting where she was described as being healthy and energetic.

If she had pneumonia since Friday and and what appears to have fainted on the 911 memorial how did she bounce back so quickly to make the PR stunt with the little girl.

To many things aren't adding up that could have been avoidable if she and her campaign would have been straight forward with the public.


Like I said I don't know if she only has pneumonia or not, but clearly there is enough questionable activity by her campaign to suggest there may be more to this. Especially since they haven't exactly been straight forward from the start.



posted on Sep, 12 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: interupt42

Quote Clinton making a public statement that she didn't have pneumonia after Friday.

The campaign did what the campaign is supposed to do ... defend Clinton from the general stupidity of the press.

She got overheated, they made that statement. She felt better after cooling off and resting (and probably rehydrating) and they made that statement. Later in the day, the doctor made the statement and probably insisted on stating the presence of pneumonia, probably mostly for insurance reasons.

You can spin all that as you choose, but those are the facts.

You believed before Friday, before you found out that she has pneumonia, and probably for quite some time that Clinton is a pathological liar.

She's been on antibiotics and is very likely not contagious. The little girl wanted a hug. It was awkward. What does that have to do with screeching "SHEEE LIEEEED!!!"

You haven't pointed out a single deception on the part of the campaign or Clinton.

Let's do a counter example, eh? Let's say that Mr. Trump comes down with a case of colitus. Bug, a bad Big Mac, whatever.

Do you really believe that the public needs to know how many hours he spent on the toilet with violent diarrhea?

Would that be embarrassing for him? Do you think that the Trump Campaign would be "up front" and run to tell us that Trump had the runs?

/shrug

I'm really not sure that it's any of our business that Hillary had pneumonia anyway, but I have different ideas about privacy, even of politicians.


Probably mostly= fact. LOL



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