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Were the Jews Expecting the Son of God?

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posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Akragon

While we're waiting for an answer.......



He will be a great leader on the political and military scene of the world...


Could it be?????



Sorry, I couldn't help myself!


This post is a clear example of Windys attitude, both hostile and belittling, off topic musings of a person who is not sincere

This is why Windy doesnt deserve a valid reply Mr Cox




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it



Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
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posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it



Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.


Yeah i saw it the first time you posted it... that passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah...

Further more, No one ever called Jesus Immanuel... or God with us

So your point is moot




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it



Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.


Yeah i saw it the first time you posted it... that passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah...

Further more, No one ever called Jesus Immanuel... or God with us

So your point is moot



I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right? Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?

For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: zosimov


I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right?


perhaps in the modern Christian mind... not in reality


Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?


No... again, this passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah... Christianity took this passage and twisted it to mean what they wanted...

Unfortunately, he wasn't EVER called any of those names... Not even Mighty God until many many years later




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: zosimov


I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right?


perhaps in the modern Christian mind... not in reality


Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?


No... again, this passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah... Christianity took this passage and twisted it to mean what they wanted...

Unfortunately, he wasn't EVER called any of those names... Not even Mighty God until many many years later



Oh sorry, you were there?



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:27 PM
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edit on 11-9-2016 by zosimov because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman




Please answer Windys question if you have the answer


The question was aimed at you, not the OP. So far you still haven't provided any Old Testament scripture that confirms your assertion, that Jesus fulfilled Hebrew expectation of their Messiah.

BTW, the video accurately portrays a modern concept of the biblical Messiah.



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: zosimov


I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right?


perhaps in the modern Christian mind... not in reality


Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?


No... again, this passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah... Christianity took this passage and twisted it to mean what they wanted...

Unfortunately, he wasn't EVER called any of those names... Not even Mighty God until many many years later




edit on 11-9-2016 by zosimov because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



Ad hominem but no substance..?



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



Ad hominem but no substance..?


Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?


it wasn't a prophecy...

read the chapter instead of taking one verse out of context




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:32 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



Ad hominem but no substance..?


Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements



For the most part, perhaps, but not that part about the Messiah.



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:33 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?


it wasn't a prophecy...

read the chapter instead of taking one verse out of context



Then why the future tense?



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



Ad hominem but no substance..?


Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements



For the most part, perhaps, but not that part about the Messiah.


no that was also correct...

and as i said in my first post... the OP is looking for jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it...

why do i have to keep repeating myself here




posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



Ad hominem but no substance..?




Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements



For the most part, perhaps, but not that part about the Messiah.


no that was also correct...

and as i said in my first post... the OP is looking for jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it...

why do i have to keep repeating myself here



but they're the same scripture.. it's the same book!
edit on 11-9-2016 by zosimov because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2016 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture



So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?


it wasn't a prophecy...

read the chapter instead of taking one verse out of context



Then why the future tense?


read.... the... Chapter





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