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Bush Third term? (its actually possible)

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posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 05:13 PM
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This will not happen.

1. The Supreme Court rules on matters revolving around the constitution. They do not appreciate pre-rulings such as this..

2. The Democrats command enough Senators and House members to tie the Senate up indefinitely. And I mean indefinitely.

The first stage is a filibuster, which is when a member of the Senate stands and reads for as long as possible, he cannot break or take water, he must remain upright and unaided. This can be done by any Senator, so imagine 45 Democratic Senators in a revolving system of filibusters.

If any bills do get pushed through then the Democratic minority leader can issue the request for votes on everything. Including quorum calls meaning that every member of the Senate must be recalled to vote.

There are hundreds of ways to lock the Senate and House down to the point of permanent gridlock.

Oh, and you're assuming theres not a Democratic majority by 2008.




posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 07:13 PM
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To ammend the constitution require more, much more really, than a mere majority.


The Constitution Of the United States of America Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall
propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the
Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for
proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and
Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of
three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths
thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the
Congress


So a 2/3rd majority in each house of congress or 2/3rds of the legislatures of the states can call for a convention that can put up an ammendment.

The ammendment must be approved in one of either two pre-specified ways, either by ratification by the Legislatures of three quarters, a 'super-majority' of all the states or by having each state set up a convention to decide and having 3/4 of all those convetions ratify it.

That means you might need something like 33 states to agree that a particular ammendment should be given up for ratification, and then need something like 37 states to actually approve it, yes or no, as its presented (ie no line item veto or something like that). Truly, a daunting task. How many states had 'gay marriage' proposals on the 2004 ballots? I mean, surely there were attempts made in other states, and they wouldn't even vote on it within their own state, letalone as a national/federal level, and thats just to have voted on it internally. Thats one 'possible' ammendment. THe other would be, in one way or another, a '3rd term for bush' ammendment, but only 31 states voted for bush in 2004 no? And certainly some of the bush support would not support him on a 3rd term, and even more would rationalize that removing the limits could result in, say, a four term progressive democrat presidency (the very situation that resulted in presidential term limits in the first place)

Not a simple process, and thats the basic rule about it, the constitutional law, without any of the precedents or other court rulings that might've affected it.

So, a filibuster can be stopped by a 2/3rds vote anyway no? So a filibuster can't stop an ammendment, another clever idea by the founders.



posted on Oct, 24 2007 @ 12:11 PM
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Bush to Cancel Elections


I'm not sure how much credit to give the below site since it's my first time viewing them. MSNBC has a similar story. The main reason I'm bringing this up is it mirrors my feelings as to why the govmnt would suspend elections if possible.


The stated plan is to have a rule in place that allows cancellation of the election if there's a terrorist attack. But, knowing the way the Patriot Act was written, I fear the actual bill will go much further. It could authorize martial law, extend the terms of the president and the members of congress indefinitely

www.opednews.com...

Below story is a bit dated but follows the same reasoning


"My fear is that civil disorder could have such a broad definition that [Republican majority members of] the Legislature would like to postpone an election if it looked like they were going to lose," Downing said during the Judiciary Committee hearing.

www.phoenixnewtimes.com...

Prime Minister Bush



I know this story has been in ATS already but I feel it deserves comment here as well. Perhaps Bush and the NWO gang have a plan to place the US under ownership or protectorate of the UK should we be involved in something like WWIII in the next few months. It's just my thought which make a bit of sense to me. Unite Canada, US, Mexico etc in the name of free trade etc as first step in creating a one government world.


Reporter: Mr. President, following up on Vladimir Putin for a moment, he said recently that next year, when he has to step down according to the constitution, as the president, he may become prime minister; in effect keeping power and dashing any hopes for a genuine democratic transition there ...

Bush: I've been planning that myself.


blog.wired.com...



posted on Oct, 25 2007 @ 07:14 PM
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I think some folks worry too much. 9/11 + Afghanistan + Iraq combined are just minor footnotes that in the future only historians will remember compared to WWII and the US Civil War. We still had elections as normal during both - heck, everyone was whining about Abraham Lincoln suspending Habeas Corpus and trampling the constitution during the Civil War, but we still had elections.

Oh, and I know those posts were from years ago, but George's brother is John Ellis Bush (Jeb.)



posted on Oct, 25 2007 @ 07:30 PM
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the same allegations were made about bubba clinton, and I'm sure they'll be made about hillary

if the NWO is all powerful, do they really need to bother with term limits ? couldn't they just rig the elections to get their next candidate in office ?

getting an upopular puppett a third term is potentially disastrous to their cause, you don't get control of the civilized world by making such stupid mistakes.

bush is on his way out, but when hillary gets her 8 years, that will be 28 years between 2 families.....



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
Well, the first post link, is the only source i can find on the matter. I think, Bush could amend the XXII amendment to allow him to have a third term, but i doubt America as a whole would want that.


As long as Americans can make their mortgage payments and have gas to take the kids to soccer practice...they won't care (or even be aware probably)...



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 05:34 PM
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Prime Minister Bush?

Impossible. The United States does not have a parlimentary system.



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 05:45 PM
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I don't know how accurate this is, but I will share it with you all nonetheless. A few years ago, I read on ATS that "Bush" (as he is simply called nowadays) can serve a third term if some disaster occurs, such as a terrorist act and etc. This law (or whatever it was) was passed by President Bush, I think. Check into it. Again, I don't know how legit/legal it is.




[edit on 29-10-2007 by they see ALL]



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 05:50 PM
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all in all the guy will only serve his 8 years. america would go nuts under exnteded term service. by his 8th year his ass will be out of office otherwise we will impeach him. simple as that.

p.s if bush did return to the office the saying "son of a BITC#" would have to be changed to "son of a BUSH"

[edit on 29-10-2007 by S.O.Blilbobby]



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 06:09 PM
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Well he’s already served 12 plus years. I mean think about it like this. His dad’s 4 years. Plus he had 8 years as a Vice President. Don’t you think that Bush Jr. also knew what was going on and spoke often to his dad whom was president at the time.

Ok it like this President Reagan 8 years
With Former President Bush Vice President 8 years.
Then President 4 years.

Clinton then Becomes President 8 years. With him and former President Bush very good friends. Still to this day.

Now back to President Bush Jr. 8 years.

Then were going to go back to the Clintons, but this time Mrs. Clinton. So people we have not had any one new in the past 28 years. Their just going back and forth making you think it’s someone different or new. When in fact its not.



posted on Oct, 30 2007 @ 01:29 PM
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bush is on his way out, but when hillary gets her 8 years, that will be 28 years between 2 families.....

wow, never thought of it like that. Good point, scary too



posted on Oct, 30 2007 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
"nice" man?? he is probably one of the main figures of the new world order and was apart of a staged attack on America. Yes, he is a nice man...


I highly doubt he'd be an influential force in the NWO, I'm surprised he can tie his shoes without waging war on the laces.

His father on the other hand? Well there's a prime force, but that's another topic.



posted on Feb, 25 2008 @ 03:06 AM
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Well, get this, an executive order was passed allowing Bush to become the full Constitution should anything happen anywhere at anytime to threaten any form of American society. Not only that, but Bush has just warned us of a new 9-11 before the election, same thing they did in 2004:

www.huffingtonpost.com...
en.rian.ru...

There was another Republican, Dennis Milligan, who said there will be another attack, and we, the people, will understand we need these laws. Hmm...

Then look at this thread, www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think he acts dumb to make people underestimate him, really I do. Hitler made people underestimate him, look what he did afterwards.

[edit on 25-2-2008 by Darky5K]



posted on Feb, 25 2008 @ 03:37 AM
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reply to post by junxed
 

Since you in the USA don't know what is in the Annexes to NSPD-51, I suspect George W. Bush has all sorts of surprises in there.

Maybe he will declare himself Tsar on the same day that Vladimir Putin does... wouldn't that be special for the special friends.


Adieu.

[edit on 25/2/08 by Pellevoisin]



posted on Feb, 25 2008 @ 05:51 AM
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Actually there is no need to even speculate as to whether GWB Jr. will go for a third term or not. There is no need too as he has already set the ground work for the next prez.

Do we really need another 9/11 event to collapse the nation, not really. All that needs to be done is crash the market, declare an emergency and the rest is history. Couldn't happen, better check the mortgage foreclosures, sub-prime rate and the municipal bonds to know it can could be done in this way.

Our police have been heavily militarized with active duty soldiers working along side state and local police doing routine police work(against the Constitution). Couldn't happen in America you say, we have the Constitution, we know our rights! The next time you see a "police officer" wearing black urban fatigues, black military body armor, combat helmet, high capacity military 9mm, combat boots, balaclava and a full auto military battle rifle, remember your rights I am sure he will be amused.

Bush couldn't get a third term, sure he could and don't think the Constitution would stop him, Bush; "its only a piece of paper". Would the courts stop him...well they haven't yet. Would the military, nope, top brass are making the big bucks and war is profitable. Will the people, nope, to lazy or interested in whats on prime time TV.

Though it is possible don't count on it. The next puppet is already picked and waiting in line. Don't worry the NAU and the Amero are on the way to save the day.



posted on May, 22 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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posted on May, 22 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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I was wondering when this was going to come up?

For several years now I have been frightening friends with the theory that since uncurious george was appointed by the Supreme court in 2000, he technically didn't win and that as a result some on the far right would advance the notion that he could still run and win two more times...

... its still a scary thought except for the fact that his approval rating is about 28% and he wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning...

... Clinton fatigue HA... try shrub fatigue!!!



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 04:40 AM
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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:30 PM
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Well whoever wants that to go down, Bush 3rd term, better get their butts in gear. You've got one week left dude.


I bet they never thought it would come down to this!



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